Showing posts with label Mexico 8-escudos. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Mexico 8-escudos. Show all posts

Friday, June 10, 2016

6/10/16 Report - Federal Maritime Law Versus State Regulations. Huge Monument Found By Satellite Image. Revolutionary War Structures. Are 17th Century Escudos Worth More Than 18th Century Escudos?


Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of treasurebeachesreport.blogspot.com.

Satellite Image Showing Evidence of Huge Monument.
Photo by I. Labiance, National Geographic.


An enormous monument has been hiding in plain sight at the World Heritage site of Petra according to a study recently published in the Bulletin of the American Schools of Oriental Research.
Archaeologists Sarah Parcak, a National Geographic fellow, and Christopher Tuttle, executive director of the Council of American Overseas Research Center used high resolution satellite imagery followed by aerial drone photography and ground surveys to locate and document the structure.
Here is the link.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/06/space-archaeology-satellite-petra-ancient-city-discovery-jordan-monument/

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Experts found 60 Revolutionary War era structures off Limekiln Road near Redding Connecticut.  Piles of square stones from collapsed chimneys provided the most obvious evidence of several decayed structures.

Here is the link.

http://www.thereddingpilot.com/2016/06/06/experts-found-60-revolutionary-structures-off-limekiln-road/

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I provided the following link the other day and pointed out a few interesting pieces of history from that document.  I did not refer to the Conclusions of Law section, which might also be of interest to some of you.  I always felt that there was a conflict between federal law and state regulations, but had no idea that a judge would agree with me.  It said,  "Florida's statutory and regulatory framework for the exploration, recovery, and disposition of sunken historic artifacts is inconsistent with federal maritime principles in at least three material respects:). They then went on to give more details.

Here is the link again.

https://coast.noaa.gov/data/Documents/OceanLawSearch/Cobb%20Coin%20Co.%20v.%20Unidentified,%20Wrecked%20&%20Abandoned%20Sailing%20Vessel,%20549%20F.%20Supp.%20540%20(S.D.%20Fla.%201982).pdf?redirect=301ocm

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I took a look at auction prices for some Mexican eight-escudos and Bogota 2-escudos.  These were the same escudos I posted about in separate posts recently.  At first glance, and within the limited range of the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries, there was no clear relationship between realized prices and age.  It bears repeating that all of the cobs considered were between 1600 and 1800, but within that range there was no obvious strong relationship between price and age.  In order to really detect such a relationship, if there is one, some of the other variables need to be controlled.  At some later time I might get around to doing that.

Given the limited access to the Florida Collection that is available to the citizens of Florida, I find the auction records more useful.  I have access to more complete information through private collections and auction records than through the Florida Collection.  As one person interested in studying our history, it is very fortunate that so much of our history is in private hands and changes hands through public auctions.

Alan Craig's books on the silver and gold coins in the Florida Collection were printed in 2000.  While his books provide some access to information about the Florida Collection, his books are expensive and now 16 years old.  Many coins have been added since that time, and I haven't seen any publication of the coins and artifacts that were added in recent years.

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We still have rainy weather, small surf and decreasing tides.

Happy hunting,
TreasureGuide@comcast.net


Sunday, June 5, 2016

6/5/16 Report - Storm Headed For Florida. Escudos: Then and Now. Find Face App.


Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of treasurebeachesreport.blogspot.com.

Tropical Depression Three
Source: nhc.noaa.gov
Tropical Depression Three is expected to become a storm that passes over North Florida next week.  Don't expect any big surf on the Treasure Coast though.

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We all know about the fantastic 2015 treasure finds made by the savage crews along the Treasure Coast last year.  While those finds are unprecedented, there were definitely big days in the 1900s too.  

First, in the early 1960s the the famed "carpet of gold" was found.  Over 1000 gold cobs were uncovered.

And in 1974, after an otherwise unproductive day of diving, over a thousand escudos were found.

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The chart above shows the realized prices of 18 Mexico-minted 1714 8-escudos that were sold in a 1977 Bowers and Ruddy auction.  The label on the horizontal axis incorrectly says 17 instead of 18.

That is a fairly good sample size for one auction, especially of one specific date.

I'll be analyzing various samples of treasure coins from time to time.

As you can see from the chart, the highest priced 1714 Mexican 8-escudo in the 1977 auction sold for $1500.  The lowest priced of the same mint and year was $550.  There were two that sold at $1350 and two that sold at $550.

That seems like a low prices for 1714 eight-escudos.  One thing that has to be taken into consideration is inflation.  It would take just over $40 in 2016 to buy what $10 would buy in 1977.  So if you wanted to compare 1977 prices with 2016 prices, you might multiply the 1977 prices by four.  That would make make the high price for those sold in 1977 equivalent to $6000 in 2016 dollars, and the low price would then be about $2200 in 2016 dollars.

Why such a range?  One of the neat things about cobs is that they are all different.  Some varieties are more common and others more rare, some are better struck and are in better condition, etc.  The highest priced 1714 Mexico 8-escudo in the 1977 auction, while being nice overall, had one outstanding feature that undoubtedly added significantly to the price.  It was the only one of the 18 that had a partial date showing on the reverse (cross side).

Things were different 40 years ago.  Many more cobs have been found in the last forty years, and I suspect that people looked at collecting cobs a bit differently in the early days.

There was only one Mexico-minted 1714 8-escudo in the most recent Sedwick Coins auction, and the winning bid on that escudo was $10,000.  Without adjusting for inflation, that is a price that is over six times greater than the highest priced Mexico 8-escudo sold in the 1977 auction.  With an adjustment for inflation the 2016 price is still nearly twice the price of the highest priced Mexico 8-escudo  in the 1977 auction, and more than four times the price of the lowest priced Mexico 8-escudo in the 1977 auction.

To be more precise I'd have to take into account a variety of factors, but I'll just look at the comparisons in very general terms for now.   Without getting more specific, I will say that the Mexico 1714 8-escudo in the 2016 Sedwick auction was the second lot in the auction and a fine example.  It undoubtedly compares fairly well to one of the higher priced Bowers and Ruddy Mexico 8-escudos.

I'll do a more complete analysis in the future.

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I thought this Market Watch article was interesting.  Here is an excerpt.

A new app called FindFace, recently released in Russia, gives us a glimpse into what this future might look like. Made by two 20-something entrepreneurs, FindFace allows anybody to snap a photo of a passerby and discover their real name — already with 70% reliability. The app allows people to upload photos and compare faces to user profiles from the popular social network Vkontakte, returning a result in a matter of seconds. According to an  interview in the Guardian, the founders claim to already have 500,000 users and have processed over 3 million searches in the two months since they’ve launched.

What’s particularly unsettling are the use cases they advocate: identifying strangers to send them dating requests, helping government security agencies to determine the identities of dissenters, and allowing retailers to bombard you with advertisements based on what you look at in stores.

Here is the link.