Friday, November 28, 2014

11/28/14 Report - Very Nice Button Find and Some Great Web Sites About Buttons. National Button Society. Stone Henge Artifacts

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Find and photo by Dan B.

Here is a great button found by Dan B.  We need your help to identify it.  I've done a little research and haven't come up with the ID yet. 

As you can see it appears to have a violin and sword on he front. 

Very ornate and in very nice condition.

Great find Dan!

Here is a picture of the back of the same button. 

Find and photo by Dan B.

I guess his is what you would call a two-piece flat button with a wire shank.  Please correct me if I am wrong about any of that.

I haven't found he specific button yet (I am sure one of you will be able to ID it.) but while looking I did find some really great web sites about buttons that I am sure many of you will find useful.

One of the best is   It is by the National Button Society, which I did not know about prior to this.

Here is the home page link.

Here is a link describing a large number of back types.  This is a very detailed listing.

And even better, here is a link to a gallery of pictures of back types.  Really great!

As you will see if you browse around, this site is not limited to metal buttons or one type or age of buttons.

 Here are a couple examples from that section just to show you the kind of thing they have on that web site.

The web site also has a list of links and a bunch of other information.  Check it out and browse around.

Here is another button web site link.  This one deals with civil war buttons (which I thought Dan's might be.).

And here is yet another web site.  This one by the Waterbury button company.

Well, I haven't found Dan's button yet, but in the process did find a lot of good web sites.  I hope you can find Dan's button for us.  We all benefit from helping each other.


Here is a nice article about some of the intricate gold work found on artifacts associated with Stone Henge.  They conclude that it is so small and intricate that it could have only been done by children working on the task.

Take a look.


I hope you had a wonderful Thanksgiving.  Many people are alone or far from friends and family, and other families have more than their fair share of troubles and conflict.  Be thankful for what you do have and focus on that and sharing with the less fortunate.  May your troubles be light and your blessings many. 


On the Treasure Coast the wind on Friday will be from the North while the surf is around three feet.

For next Friday they are now predicting somewhere around six foot seas.

Happy hunting,

Thursday, November 27, 2014

11/27/14 100 Plus Year Old Thanksgiving Day Greeting!

100 Plus Year Old  Used Thanksgiving Greeting Card.

From me to you.

Here is the back, just in case you are interested.

Earl is my grandfather.

Be blessed!

Wednesday, November 26, 2014

11/26/14 - More On Beach Metal Detecting Coin Distribution Patterns. NOT Your Mummy's Jewels. Cache Of Ancient Roman Jewelry.

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Part Of Discovered Cache.
Source: link shown here.
A collection of Roman jewelry, including three gold armlets, a silver chain necklace, two silver bracelets, a silver armlet, four finger rings, a box containing two pairs of gold earrings, and a bag of coins, was discovered during the renovation of a department store in Colchester, Britain’s oldest recorded town. The cache of jewelry had been buried in the floor of a house that had been burned to the ground...

Here is the source link for more about that.


If you are blind you can get  a free currency reader.

I didn't know there was such a thing.  Makes sense though.  It also reminds that there is much to give thanks for, including such things as decent eye-sight.


Yesterday I posted an illustration of a coin distribution pattern that I recently dug at a Treasure Coast beach.  Often when you find such a cluster of coins, the distribution of denominations will tell you whether the source of the coins is the cut or the water.  To put it another way, it can tell you if the coins are washing up out of the water or out of the sand.  It can be either.

When the coins wash out of the sand and there is a slope, the heavier items will often be near the top.  Therefore you will find more quarters high on the slope followed by nickels, dimes and pennies, then copper then zinc pennies.  And if the coins are coming out of the water you will sometimes find the reverse order - quarters near the water, and zinc pennies farthest from the water.

These are some of the things that can help you define the area of a coin hole and lead you to gold.  It will also help you make productive use of your time by spending your time in the most promising area. 

If the coins are being uncovered and it is a good mature hole ( one that has been subject to good wave energy for a good amount of time) the less dense objects will tend to be farther from erosion.  If the source is the water, then the less dense objects will tend to be farther from the water.  If the hole is not mature (the erosion or washing up just beginning) then the distribution pattern will not be so well defined.

If coins are washing up, the first that you will find will be the zinc pennies near the water line.  If the water force is not strong enough, the other coins will still be in the water and may not make it out of the water.  Therefore zinc pennies along the water line can be your first indication of something beginning to happen.

Like the pattern I illustrated yesterday, lead and gold will tend to be towards the far boundary of the hole.  Very often they will be either near the water line or still in the shallow water.


Spanish archaeologists digging in Egypt have unearthed a female mummy still wearing her jewels.  She tried to take it with her.

Here is the source link for more of the story.


While this Thanksgiving Day the Treasure Coast prediction is for a aroud a two-foot surf, a week from Thanksgiving a 5 - 8 foot surf is predicted.  Now that could be interesting, but as I've pointed out many times, surf predictions made that far in advance are not real realiable.  Time will tell.

The wind is out of the West right now, but the wind will be coming from the North later and for a few days.  The surf will be building a little daily.  The North wind might make it interesting.

Happy hunting,

Tuesday, November 25, 2014

11/25/14 Report - Metal Detecting Target Distribution Patterns and Search Strategies - One Excellent Example. Sedwick Auction Results Online.

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Simplified Illustration of What I Found On One Treasure Coast Beach Saturday.
I mentioned that I found a lot of coins Sunday.  I hunted the slope of the beach from the face of the cut down to the water line.  First I scanned part of the beach for maybe three hundred yards.

The above illustration is not totally accurate but gives a good picture of what it looked like.  First, the coins were found in one area running from close to the toe of the cut down to near the water line well before low tide.  The coins did not appear to go all the way to the water line though.

In the above illustration black dots represent coins.  There are not as many black dots as coins found in the coin hole area that spread about fifty yards along the beach.  The coins were on average about five yards apart. This was not a densely packed coin hole.

The grey dots out to the right represent aluminum targets that were found about a hundred yards or so to the north.  They were up against the toe of the dune in a white shell packed sand which was distinctly different from the sand the coins were found in.

Although there were more coins found than shown, the illustration shows he correct number of dots for the other types of targets dug on that day.

To the South of the coins no targets of any kind were found for a hundred yards or so.

Red dots represent lead finds, and orange represents gold.

I only spent between one and two hours checking this stretch of beach.  I did not cover every inch of the beach.  Some areas were detected much more thoroughly than others.

I first used a very lose search pattern to identify different areas that I would more intensely search.  I try to find the most promising areas where I should spend most of my time.

I quickly hit a few of the coins in the coin hole as I walked along the beach, then nothing as I went north until I hit the aluminum junk area.

I've explained before some of the scan patterns that I use to identify hot spots. The zig zag pattern is one of those.  That is not what I used Saturday.  I simply followed the contour of the beach near the face of the cut at first.  Since I quickly discovered a few coins up near the cut, on the return I went down closer to the water to get an idea of how wide the coin bearing area might be.

Here is an important point.  Look at the illustration.  The black dots represent coins, the grey dots aluminum, the red represents led finds, and the orange iron.  What do you notice about the distribution?   The targets of different metals were grouped without exception.  This was a well developed distribution pattern. 

The coins were not real old, but were not recent drops.  They were all, except one, colored and crusty.

If I was using discrimination, I might not have detected the aluminum or iron targets.  I would have had a less complete picture of what was going on.

The two round lead sinkers helped to identify the lower boundary of the coin hole.

I certainly did not need discrimination in the coin hole because there was no junk in with the coins. The aluminum told me that the area to the north was probably not a good place to waste time, so that information was helpful too.  There is simply too much beach to cover equally and completely, so you need to focus your time and efforts on the most promising spots.

The distribution of targets led me to the most likely location to find gold.  Of course, sometimes the areas aren't so well defined, but in this case the targets were not new and had been well classified and distributed by type.

This illustration shows a number of things and explains why I use some of the techniques that I often talk about.  I can't get into all of them now.

Here is one thing I will advise.  Sample different areas of a beach to try to identify the area where you want to focus your efforts.  Don't use discrimination, especially at first, until you get some idea of any distribution pattern. 

Distribution patterns are not random below the high tide line.  This particular example is a very well developed pattern and makes an excellent illustration.

I probably spent about eighty percent or more of my time in the area of the coin hole.  It was located quickly.


You can go back and look at the completed Sedwick Coins auction catalog on the icollector site to see what prices were realized by the various lots.

Here is the link.

Sedwick also sent me an email to say that new items were added to their online store.


Don't expect any Thanksgiving storm this year.  The surf Thursday will be calm.  

They are predicting a bump in the surf out another week, but the long range predictions are not very accurate.

Happy Hunting,

Monday, November 24, 2014

11/24/14 Report - Watching Surf And Sand Movement. LIDAR Discovers Roman Gold Mining Nework. Beach Detecting Conditions Rating Downgrade.

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Breaking Wave As Seen Saturday Morning Near High Tide
Notice where the wave in the above picture is breaking, and where the water is flat in front of that.  That is where the water is moving over sand in front of the beach, and the rough water near the bottom of the picture is where the water meets the bottom of the slope and the water coming back down the slope.

There are three things I want you to watch in the following video.   First, where the waves are breaking.  Second, where the water surges over the sand in front of the beach after breaking.  And then something you didn't see in the above illustration, how it surges up the slope until it hits the cut and then back down again.


Here it is with lines and arrows added to show the area where the waves are breaking, surging across the bar and where the incoming water hits the water returning down the slope near the bottom of the slope.

You can clearly see where the wave is breaking (top horizontal red line).  That is where the water gets shallow enough  for the wave to break.

Then the surge across the sand in front of the beach (from the top red line to the blue line).

Then the rough water where the incoming water hits the water returning down the slope.

When you see waves breaking way out, you know the water is relatively shallow that far out. 

The waves at this beach were breaking fairly close to shore.  You can get an idea of where the water is deep and where there is a lot of sand from where the waves are breaking.  

The illustration immediately above is from six seconds in on the video.

Here is an illustration from sixteen seconds in where you can see the slope better.

The top line shows general area where the sand builds up and the waves are breaking.  The second line shows the approximate beginning of the slope.  And the arrows shows the slope where the water goes up and returns.

The angle of the video and perspective makes this difficult to diagram and illustrate, and I know that I didn't explain it very clearly.

One of main points is that you can tell a lot about where the sand is and how deep it is by where the waves are breaking and how the water is moving.  That is useful information.  Always figure out as much as you can about how the sand is moving. 

There is a lot more that you can see in this video, such as the angle of the waves as they hit the beach.

Here the waves are breaking closer to shore than some of the other beaches.  The sand in front of the beach will have to be moved or at least stirred up to uncover the older materials before they can be washed up. 

The next day (Sunday) a good number of coins were found on this slope in front of the cut.

I hope you got something out of that even though I didn't couldn't make it real clear. 

I advise watching the video a few times after reading this.


The most "google plused" post of October was the 10/4/2014 Report -  Tuning A Pulse Induction Metal Detector For Gold.  Permit To Take Photos In Florida.  Higher Surf Coming.


Hidden under the vegetation and crops of the Eria Valley, in León (Spain), there is a gold mining network created by the Romans two thousand years ago, as well as complex hydraulic works, such as river diversions, to divert water to the mines of the precious metal. Researchers from the University of Salamanca made the discovery from the air with an airborne laser teledetection system (LIDAR).

Here is more about that.


I got out to take a look at the beach this morning, and I am downgrading my beach detecting conditions rating back to a 1 (poor).  Beaches that eroded are filling again.

On the Treasure Coast the wind will be from the South for a couple of days and the surf will be slightly reduced.

Wednesday we'll have another front coming through and the wind will shift again and be coming from the North again but at the time the surf will be only around two or three feet.

I'll probably be going back to a "1" rating on my Treasure Coast beach detecting conditions rating scale before long.  I'm actually surprised that the beaches haven't refilled more already.

Happy hunting,

Sunday, November 23, 2014

11/23/14 Report - At Least Two Beaches More Erosion This Morning, Long Lost Stumps Resurfacing, Coin Hole Found, Wasting Time With Target ID

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Sticking Out Of The Surf This Morning As The Tide Receded

I went out this morning before low tide to do a little detecting.  I dug more coins on a treasure beach than I had for a very long time.   I was really surprised., but mostly clad, and a pendant.  An entire pocket full.  ( I have a funny story about a pocket full of coins, but I won't tell it now.)  I'll talk about the distribution pattern some other time soon if I don't forget.

I saw this stump (photo above) in the surf, which reminded me of a time back in the eighties when there was a line of pine stumps along the water line towards the North end of John Brooks Park.  They disappeared for two or three decades.  I'm wondering if this is one of those resurfacing.  It was just to the beach side of the where the waves were breaking on the front of the sand in front of the beach.

I wonder what else might be getting washed up.

Since I was there yesterday, some additional erosion occurred, followed by a touch of refilling.  Notice the sea weed in the following  photos.

The cut was about three or four feet running for hundreds of yards.  I think there will probably be more filling since the wind is now coming from the South.

 I miss the cooler air already.

The snow birds are back in numbers now too.

Three To Four Foot Cuts This Morning Before Low Tide.
I always like to dig coin holes like the one I found this morning.  It tells you a lot about what is going on at the beach and how things get distributed.  Clad coins are not a good indicator of cobs though.  Most often I've found cobs when there are very few or no clad coins.


I learned a long time ago that it is not easy to convince most people of anything.  Most people have
their mind made up and the longer they have held an idea or opinion, the harder it is to change them.  Instead of evaluating new information or alternate opinions, people generally begin by defending what ever they have believed.  The longer they have believed whatever it is, the more examples they have to prove their belief because what they have seen in the past was always interpreted in terms of those beliefs.

I'm in the market for a new detector and so have been looking around for what I can learn about a couple of models.  I keep running into detectorists who say that target ID helps save time because you don't waste time digging as much junk. That is something that sounds like it would be true, but if you actually evaluate, observe and measure, you'll find that is not always as true as it sounds.

Here is an example.  I was watching  a video comparing target ID on two sophisticated and highly regarded detectors - the CTX 3030 and Whites Vi.   Those, by the way, are not the detectors that I am interested in.

The fellow went around a grassy public park with one detector and marked questionable targets, about half of which seemed to be in the nickel/foil range.  He then went back over the undug targets with the other detector to see how the second detector identified the same target.  After getting the readouts from both detectors he then dug the target to see which of the detectors was correct.

Here is what I noticed.   He took longer getting the readout than digging the target.   On one example that I timed with the timer on the video, he took 26 seconds to determine the target ID using the various displays.  He took less than half that amount of time to plug the grass and retrieve the target.  That time was using a single detector, of course.  How much time was saved?  About minus 13 seconds.

And to make matters worse, that was in grass.  It would normally take less time to recover a target in sand.  And most junk targets in sand will be near the surface.  If you are skilled and have good equipment, it should take you even less time to recover the average junk target in sand.

I know that there are people that just don't like to dig junk.  That is OK.  No problem.   If you are one of those people, "To thine own self be true."  But don't be fooled into thinking you are saving a lot of time by using target ID.  Take into account the time you spend getting a good stable reading and looking at the various readouts before you dig.  You might be saving effort or frustration, but you are probably not saving much time.  In fact, as I just showed you might be wasting more time.

If you really want to save time, perfect your pinpointing and your scooping and sifting skills.  Learn to interpret your detector's signals.  Learn about layering.  And most of all use search strategies that lead you to good target areas rather than junk intensive areas.


The surf today was a little smaller than yesterday.  It was about 4 - 5 feet.  The waves seemed to be hitting almost straight on.

The surf on the Treasure Coast will be decreasing the next few days down to something more like 2 - 3 feet. 

I'm not decreasing my beach detecting conditions rating yet though, although I am back to a minimal 2.   I expect a decrease in the next couple of days but will be watching to see what happens.

If you missed the beaches I showed yesterday, you might want to go back and take a look at that post.

Happy hunting,

Saturday, November 22, 2014

11/22/14 Report - Big Waves On Treasure Coast But Beach Detecting Conditions Rating Stays At Level 2. A Few Beaches Are Eroded. Olive Jar Shard Found.

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I took a look at a good sample of the treasure beaches this morning to see what was going on.

Wabasso Beach This Morning Just a Little After High Tide.
Wabasso Beach was among the most promising of the beaches that I saw this morning.  I did a little detecting to check it out.  Most good targets, including mostly modern era coins, were down the slope a ways from the cut.  The cut was not a long cut, but was about a foot or a little more in some areas.  It might be worth checking at low tide.

Seagrape and Turtle Trails had almost no erosion.  In fact it seemed to be accumulating for the most part.

Turtle Trail This Morning Just After High Tide.

Sea Grape Trail Looking South This Morning Just After High Tide.

John Brooks This Morning Near High Tide.
John Brooks was still cut and the waves were bigger now but most of the erosion there happened back Tuesday or Wednesday when the front first came through and we had the North winds.  The higher waves have not done much of anything since then.

The wind has now shifted and the waves are hitting pretty much from the East along theTreasure Coast.

There was scattered rain along the coast this morning too.

The wind and waves will be shifting soon and the waves will be hitting more from the South.  That is something important to watch.  The sand will shift, filling or making new cuts, as the waves hit at different angles.

Pepper Park was not cut at all.

Treasure Shores and Golden Sand are closed.  They decided to do beach renourishment just before the winter erosion season.   I guess they don't want the new sand to stay more than a few weeks.

November is often a good treasure detecting season.  You might recall the much talked about and celebrated Thanksgiving storm when a lot of treasure washed out of the dunes.

The peak months, from my experience, are November through February.

I'm not changing my Treasure Coast Treasure Beach Detecting Conditions Rating.  I'm sticking with a minimal 2.

A few beaches account for the 2 level rating,  Many have no erosion at all.

The waves are crashing on the shallow sand on the front of the beach.  That area will have to change to uncover the old stuff.

Olive Jar Shard.
Find and photo by William M.

William M. found a piece of olive jar a few days ago after the front first came through.  It matches the olive jar neck that he found before.

Congratulations William!

This lighter stuff will show up first.  Look through any big shell piles.

Expect up to about a six foot surf Saturday and Sunday.  Unfortunately the wind direction will be coming more from the South, so I'm not expecting much more improvement.

Happy hunting,