Saturday, November 22, 2014

11/22/14 Report - Big Waves On Treasure Coast But Beach Detecting Conditions Rating Stays At Level 2. A Few Beaches Are Eroded. Olive Jar Shard Found.

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I took a look at a good sample of the treasure beaches this morning to see what was going on.

Wabasso Beach This Morning Just a Little After High Tide.
Wabasso Beach was among the most promising of the beaches that I saw this morning.  I did a little detecting to check it out.  Most good targets, including mostly modern era coins, were down the slope a ways from the cut.  The cut was not a long cut, but was about a foot or a little more in some areas.  It might be worth checking at low tide.

Seagrape and Turtle Trails had almost no erosion.  In fact it seemed to be accumulating for the most part.

Turtle Trail This Morning Just After High Tide.

Sea Grape Trail Looking South This Morning Just After High Tide.

John Brooks This Morning Near High Tide.
John Brooks was still cut and the waves were bigger now but most of the erosion there happened back Tuesday or Wednesday when the front first came through and we had the North winds.  The higher waves have not done much of anything since then.

The wind has now shifted and the waves are hitting pretty much from the East along theTreasure Coast.

There was scattered rain along the coast this morning too.

The wind and waves will be shifting soon and the waves will be hitting more from the South.  That is something important to watch.  The sand will shift, filling or making new cuts, as the waves hit at different angles.

Pepper Park was not cut at all.

Treasure Shores and Golden Sand are closed.  They decided to do beach renourishment just before the winter erosion season.   I guess they don't want the new sand to stay more than a few weeks.

November is often a good treasure detecting season.  You might recall the much talked about and celebrated Thanksgiving storm when a lot of treasure washed out of the dunes.

The peak months, from my experience, are November through February.

I'm not changing my Treasure Coast Treasure Beach Detecting Conditions Rating.  I'm sticking with a minimal 2.

A few beaches account for the 2 level rating,  Many have no erosion at all.

The waves are crashing on the shallow sand on the front of the beach.  That area will have to change to uncover the old stuff.

Olive Jar Shard.
Find and photo by William M.

William M. found a piece of olive jar a few days ago after the front first came through.  It matches the olive jar neck that he found before.

Congratulations William!

This lighter stuff will show up first.  Look through any big shell piles.

Expect up to about a six foot surf Saturday and Sunday.  Unfortunately the wind direction will be coming more from the South, so I'm not expecting much more improvement.

Happy hunting,


Thursday, November 20, 2014

11/20/14 Repor - Small Mystery Copper Find. Some Tips On Cold Weather Clothes That Are Good For Beach Detecting

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Big Diamond Ring Found
Find and photo by Robert H.

You never know when something really nice will pop up.  Here is a diamond ring (estimated at 1.5 to 2 karat) found by Robert H.

Congratulations Robert.  Great Find!

Thanks for sharing.

Small Copper Object Found Yesterday
Yesterday I dug a few small items in addition to coins.  Here is one very small copper item.  It appears to have the remains of a little silver gilt on it.  I have no idea what it is and will probably never know.

When I dug it I thought it was a percussion cap, which I've found at that beach in the past.

There were a lot of slivers of iron at the same beach.  It helps to know how to identify those if you are using a pulse detector.  I showed how to identify pieces of iron like that in previous posts.

More Concave Side of Same Object

When I went out to the beach yesterday there wasn't anyone out there.  It was a little chilly, so I had some cold weather gear on even though it wasn't really all that bad.

I thought I'd recommend some of my favorite clothes for cooler weather.

First, there are pants made for fishing that are really great.  They are made by Reel Legends.  I got mine at Bealls online.

They have a lot of pockets.  I mean really a lot.  But the best thing is that the pockets are different sizes and some have a zipper, others have Velcro, and there are attachments where you can clip things, such as key chains or whatever.

I love those pants for detecting.  They are light weight and have a zipper on the legs, so if you get hot, they can be converted to shorts.  The zippers are nylon and do not corrode from salt water.

You can stick finds of different types and sizes in the different pockets, also cameras, cell phones etc. and keep them securely.  I love the variety of pockets.

When it is cold I also like to wear a hoody with a large enough hood to get both ear phones and a hat inside the hood.  That cuts down on a lot of the wind chill.   On many hoodies the hood isn't large enough to fit over ear phones.

Gloves are a good idea.  Your hands can get nipped by the wind especially after you get them wet.

I generally don't bundle up much.  It seems I can take cool weather better than most Floridians, and even a of of snow birds that are accustomed to a warm house and warm clothes.  Our wind and humidity makes it the cold go right through you.

The wind is still from the North today.  I'm sticking with my minimal "2" Treasure Coast beach detecing conditions rating.

I'm sure you will be able to find some good spots for modern era items at some of the busier tourist beaches.  I wouldn't be surprised if a few older items might pop up.

Happy hunting

Wednesday, November 19, 2014

11/19/14 Report - Cold Front Brings North Winds and Cuts Some Treasure Coast Beaches. Minimal Beach Detecting Conditions Upgrade.

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Global warming strikes again.

As the front came through yesterday the wind picked up and is now comiing from the North.  Yesterday I said I expected some sand to be moved, and this morning I went out to check it out.  Below is what I found.

One Cut Treasure Coast Beach This Morning Looking South

Same Treasure Coast Beach This Morning Looking North
Three Foot Cut At Same Beach
 The beach above was cut for hundreds of yards.  The cut was from about one foot to just over two feet.  The front beach was not firm.  There were not many targets of any kind here.  The swash was only about ten yards in front of the cut.

Larger Cut At Another Treasure Coast Beach

Shells Being Uncovered On Same Treasure Coast Beach
 The first beach is natural sand, but the second beach (last two photos) was also cut but only in renourishment sand.  Plenty of shells were just under the surface.  There were many iron targets here as well as a few coins.

One beach I looked at had no cuts.  In fact sand was accumulating there.

As you might know, the original purpose of this blog was to keep you up to date on the changing conditions of the Treasure Coast treasure beaches.   The conditions have been so consistently poor that I quit giving a rating when it was the same day after day.  I started to only comment on conditions when there is a significant change.

I use a five-point rating scale for treasure beach detecting conditions.  A "1" rating indicates poor conditions, which we've had a lot of this year and last year, and a "5" indicates excellent conditions, like you normally get only after something like a hurricane.

Today I'm actually going to issue a beach detecting conditions rating upgrade, but only to a 2.   It is a minimal 2 at that.  If I gave fractional ratings, this would be more like a 1.5.

The cuts are scattered.  And they are not real good, but there is the distinct possibility of one or two old pieces of treasure to show up on the beaches.  The probabilities are low though.  Like I said, I'm only expecting very few, maybe one or two to show up.

More sand will need to be moved to improve increase the probabilities.  It is worth keeping an eye on for the next couple of days.

Once again this shows that the direction of the wind and waves is as important as the size of the waves for creating erosion.

At Jupiter Inlet beach it looks like they are doing another project.  You can see the bull dozier at work. (Thanks to GoSports1 for pointing this out.)

Happy hunting,

Tuesday, November 18, 2014

11/18/14 Report - Treasure Coast Finds. Moccassins Found. Clone Wooly Mammoth

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More 2014 Treasure Coast Finds From Michael E.
Photo submitted by Michael E.

Notice the label on the Tiffany ring.

The pin on the upper left is from a military institute.

Nice finds Michael!  Thanks for sharing.


Here is a cool article about moccasins found in a Utah cave.  A large number of those found were children's.   What does that have to do with metal detecting?  Read on.

Did you ever notice the large number of shoes and flip flops etc. that you can find on a beach?  If you picked them up you would have a large collection.

A lot of those shoes are children's shoes.  Why?  It is not just because there are more children.  I think it is fairly safe to assume that children are more likely to lose their shoes than adults, especially little children, who can't wait to pull off both socks and shoes.  That is something to take into account.  You can't simply say that there were larger numbers of children simply because you find a lot of children's shoes.  There is more to it than that.  I can think of other things that might affect the relatively large number of children's shoes that you find on a beach.  Children aren't always concerned about losing things - even shoes.  Children might also be harder on shoes, and children's shoe might also be discarded when they no longer fit.

Thinking about who loses what, where and why can help you a lot when it comes to metal detecting.  This is not just about the shoes or moccasins.


Scientists plan to recreate a woolly mammoth from frozen remains found in Siberia.


With the cold front moving through and the North wind some sand will be moved.  I don't know just where yet, but there surely will be a few small cuts.  The wind changed this morning, but the swells didn't change until this afternoon.

I'll be checking to see what happened, if anything.

Happy hunting,

Monday, November 17, 2014

11/17/14 Report - Mystery Item Found. One Excellent Way To Break Out Of A Rut. 1000 Year Old Find. Mining Outer Space

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Neat Find By Dan B.
Photo submitted by Dan B.

First, here is a mystery item.  The find is by Dan B. who thinks it might be a hair pin.  What do you think?


About the U. S. Customs button that I asked about yesterday, here is what Michael said.

I looked up the customs button and from the information I found its mid 40s early 50s mine is intact which I thought wasn't the case until I found it online. Looks like it attaches over an existing button.


Most detectorists approach sites pretty much the same.  They do pretty much the same thing and hit the same areas.

I told before about how I was traveling once and stopped at a picnic area on a bay.  I went into the water and could tell that the area had been hunted heavily.  

There were two posts (maybe from old docks) in the water right in front of the picnic area.  The area between the old posts and into the picnic area was cleaned out.  That rectangular area was very clean.  I decided to check outside of the rectangular area defined by the posts and shoreline, and quickly found that it had not been hunted well at all.   Yes it was junky, but in about a half hour I picked up three gold rings just outside the cleaned out area.

Detectorists tend to hit the same spots over and over.  They might be the places where the majority of targets are lost, but the targets get cleaned out so sometimes it is better to go to a place where fewer targets are lost but where more targets remain.

I was talking about a country path that I detected not long ago.  The main part of the path had been detected multiple times so that part of the path was pretty clean, so I went over to the side of the path on a slope and immediately started finding older coins.

My point is simple.  Sometimes all you have to do is do something a little different than what everybody else is doing.

If you visit an old home site.  You can look at it and tell where most detectorists would detect first.  They'll go for the obvious and easy spots.  Most won't bother to hit the more difficult spots.  All you have to do to find virgin ground is work through bushes or weeds - maybe do a little clearing.  Move rocks or logs.  Work your detector into tight spots. 

The same thing goes for beaches.  There are places everybody will hit, and there are places that most everybody will miss.  You might have to use a little more effort and use your head, but those kinds of spots are still out there.


Private companies are moving closer and closer to conducting mining operations in outer space despite the two rockets that blew up recently.  

Did you know that it has been estimated that a one kilometer diameter asteroid could contain about 7,500 tons of platinum, worth more than $150 billion?

Here is an article about that.


Here is an interesting find estimated by people that  know a lot about such things to be about 1000 years old.


On the Treasure Coast we have West winds.  A front is coming through.  We'll have cooler temperatures for a couple of days, but around a three foot surf for a week or two.

I have more Treasure Coast finds to post.

Happy hunting,

Sunday, November 16, 2014

11/16/14 Report - 15 Million Year Old Shark Skeleton Found in Back Yard. More Treasure Coast Finds. Erosion Found On One T. C. Beach.

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A Few More 2014 Finds By Michael E.\
Photo submitted by Michael E.

Here are some more 2014 finds from Michael E.  I showed some of his gold finds from this year a day or two ago.

Congratulations Michael!

Anyone know about the U. S. Customs pin?

Nice Indian Head!


A complete skeleton of a 15 million year old Snaggle Tooth shark was found in the backyard of a Maryland home.


Typical Treasure Coast Beach This Morning

Here is a typical Treasure Coast beach.  Sand has been accumulating on this front beach lately.

This photo was taken near low tide this morning.

The surf is going to around three or four feet until Tuesday.

I did find one beach that had some cuts.  As you might expect, the erosion was in renourishment sand.  One poor turtle was tricked by that and the eggs were being uncovered.

One to Two Foot Cut On One Treasure Coast Beach This Morning Near Low Tide
You can see a smattering of shells and a little black sand.  There were coins and thing below the cut.

Too bad this renourishment sand doesn't seem to hold much of anything any good.

A few older items evidently washed up onto the beach here.

Waves In Front Of The Cut Beach.

One of the most important things I've learned about in recent years is the effect of the trigger point.  I've explained a little about trigger points in previous posts. Maybe I'll expand on that soon.

It looks like the surf will only bump up a foot or two in the next week or so.  Too bad.

Happy hunting,

Saturday, November 15, 2014

11/15/14 Report - $587,000 Charles-Joanna Mexican 8-Reales, Beach Dynamics, Coins Washing Up On Beach

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This is the 8 reales that brought in over $587,000 in the recently completed Sedwick Coins Treasure Auction 16.

Maybe you'll be the one to find the fourth.


Back close to twenty years ago (I can't believe it has been so long.) Jensen beach was eroded back into the Seagrape trees by the walk-overs at the back of the beach.  Since then sand has been dumped on that beach many times.

Back when we had the hurricanes in 2004 (I think that was the year.) John Brooks was eroded back all of the way to the walk-over.  That kind of erosion doesn't happen very often.

There are periods of years when a beach will continue to erode and wear away.  And then there are periods of accretion.

When a beach gets eroded way back, you will often see a different kind of sand.  When Jensen was eroded way back, there was a course brown sand.  That, of course, has since been covered by fine white sand.

You should pay attention to the different types of sand because it can tell you if old layers are being uncovered.

The same thing goes for Turtle Trail.  Recent renourishment projects covered the beach with a fine white sand.  It is being lost, but by the time the old sand starts to emerge they will probably dump more sand to cover it up.

Here is a simple sketch of a beach cross section.  The blue line represents the water line.

Simple Beach Cross Section Illustration.
This is a wide low beach such as the one at John Brooks.  A different type of beach would be the beach at Turtle Trail that is more narrow and has a high cliff at the back.

In this diagram, let's say A (black line) is the old beach.   Then B (reddish line) represents the beach after very big erosion occurred.

Then the beach refills, up to the thin green line (C). 

Back in 2004, for example, John Brooks eroded a lot, taking the sand down to a low level, something like B above.  Then it refilled.  Since that time it eroded and refilled time and time again more near the front portion of the beach.  Cobs were found in layers of sand well above where the level of sand had been eroded in the past and way too far to the front of the beach to have come from the dunes.

Old coins will be washed out of the dunes and down onto the beach and even into the water at times.  That occurs more often on narrow beaches with high dunes behind.

I have no doubt that most of the shipwreck coins found on John Brooks in recent years were washed up onto the beach from the water since they were found in areas that were previously eroded much lower and too far from the dunes and too high to have come from the dunes.


On the Treasure Coast the surf will be a little higher on Sunday, something like 3 or 4 feet.  Out about a week an 8 foot surf is predicted.  The long range predictions often don't work out though.  We'll have to wait and see.

Happy hunting,