Thursday, October 27, 2016

10/27/16 Report - Lots of Clad On Some Beaches. Rough Water Today. Australian Pines.

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Looking out the window this morning, it sure looked like a treasure day - cloudy and windy.  We're supposed to have a four to seven foot surf.  I hope we get some change in wind direction.  The tides are still high.  The high water will help at some locations, but I'm not expecting much in the way of old items.  The swell is too much from the East.  It would help if the water gets high enough to hit the dunes where the renourishment sand has been removed.

I dug a ton of modern coins this morning.  There are plenty of those at the tourist beaches.  I want to talk about strategies but don't have time to do it today.

I received the following email and pictures from CladKing.

     ...Spent a couple days camped at  Sebastian Inlet State Park!  No-see-ums not withstanding, it was a decent stay! I only wish the state would spend some money on trees and maintenance! It was much nicer before they cut down all the Australian pines! (Been a long time since l camped there!)  Spent time fishing and detecting!   Bonsteel was still closed. Went to Amber Sands and detected up past Mclarty a good way into park! ( Asked ranger where permissible to detect of course; high water mark to water only) Found iron, and fishing tackle, and not much else on mushy sand! And one message in a bottle, which had only been out one day, so I returned it to the water for a second chance! Also hit Wabasso and Disney Vero, but again lots of iron and few finds! In my defense I was using a new coil, sooo!
   Sounds like you did much better in todays post! (Experience and local knowledge helps, haha) I did much better fishing than detecting; experience favored me on this one! Snook bite was awsome!! Also Redfish! Anyway, here's a couple pics near Mclarty, and Bonsteel ( Really!! Closed for that!!)

Pictures Of McClarty and Bon Steel Beaches by CladKing.

Thanks for the report CladKing!

Its always fun to camp and detect new areas.

I still don't know why so many beaches were closed for so long.  I have no good explanation.

The Australian Pine is not native and is considered to be an invasive pest.  Here is a summary from the Australian Pine Task Force.

Australian pine (Casuarina equisetifolia) is a fast growing tree native to Australia, Southeast Asia, India, Bangladesh and the Pacific Islands that has been introduced to tropical areas throughout the world as an ornamental; to stabilize sand dunes; to form windbreaks around canals, roads, houses, and agricultural fields; and for reforestation due to its capacity to thrive in poor and saline soils. As a result of these intentional introductions, Australian pine has become a highly invasive species and is found along most humid tropical or sub-tropical beaches around the world. In Florida, Australian pine occurs predominantly south of Orlando as it is sensitive to extended periods of freezing temperatures. Australian pine produces copious amounts of wind and water dispersed seeds and is able to colonize a wide variety of habitats including coastal areas, pinelands, disturbed sites and higher areas of elevation in the Everglades. The fast growth, prolific seeding and thick litter accumulation of Australian pine impedes the establishment of native plant species and their associated herbivores, disrupting natural processes. Australian pine readily establishes on sandy shores which leads to increased beach erosion and interference with the nesting of endangered sea turtles and crocodiles. 

I don't see how it can cause increased erosion.  It does in some cases make erosion more apparent, but I would think it actually has a stabilizing effect overall.

Here is the link.

I think most of the Australian pines have been removed from the beaches.  There are still a few though.

Happy hunting,

Wednesday, October 26, 2016

10/26/16 Report - One Exceptional Four-Reale. Beaches This Morning. Increasing Surf.

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Nice Four-Reale
Find and photos by Darrell S. 

This is not a new find.  Here is what Darrell said about it.

... My machine was still on and started screaming! I thought scrap iron or aluminium, but to my surprise was a beautiful 4 reale. I showed to some local gurus and they believed it was shaped as if snipped off a bar or strip. Many square shaped coins have been found, but not showing both edges of a bar or strip. There is a faint "4" right of the shield on edge of coin. It is so smooth it is hard to see unless up close. 

Cannot say who bought it, but Kenny made several copies. This was the actual coin before sold. I thought would be cool to take with the book. Kenny didn't remove the material in the bottom left hand corner when he made copies. We believed to have been part of a bag coins were in!!!

That is one very interesting coin Darrell!  Thanks for sharing.


Surf This Morning Just Before Low Tide
Last night the wind was blowing pretty good.  The surf was supposed to begin increasing today as you can see from the MagicSeaWeed predictions.  You can see the surf as it looked this morning in the picture above.


Tomorrow the surf is supposed to be up to 5 - 7 feet.  We're supposed to have a few days of 4 - 6 foot surf after that.  The problem is, at least for the next couple of days, that the wind and waves will be coming directly from the east.  There are still places where the beach is eroding, such as around inlets or other obstacles to the natural flow of sand.

This afternoon I tested one swimming beach that was producing tons of modern coins - so many that with the incoming tide there was no time to get them all, so I actually started to pass over obvious coin signals.  I expected nothing exciting nothing but modern coins, but I was surprised to dig a wheatie before I shifted strategies.  I didn't look at them when I was at the beach.  I just stuck them in my pocket as fast as I could.  I wasn't expecting anything even that old.  It was a 1940 penny, so maybe I'll have to take another look at that beach.

I did find one gold band in a hurry, which is what I was trying to do when I decided to skip targets that sounded like coins or junk.  I seldom do that, but this time just had a short time to work as I got there late and the tide was already coming in.

Wreck Beach This Morning Before Low Tide.
You can see the mushy front beach in the above picture.  The wreck beaches along South Hutchinson Island aren't doing much right now.  Modern coins can be found at various places.  The water did not get as high the past few days.

That is all for now.

Happy hunting,

Tuesday, October 25, 2016

10/25/16 Report - Recent Land Finds, Wood Hulled Ship Construction and Components. Little UFO Fun.

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Matthew uncovered some interesting things from south of the Treasure Coast up to North Florida.

Dan B., who treasure dives during the season, has been making fine finds on land in recent days.

Finds From One Site Dan hunted.
Finds by Dan B. From Another Site.
People sometimes say there is no place to hunt and nothing left to be found.  It takes work, but it is our there.  Research helps a lot.

Thanks for sharing Dan.

I've posted some iron artifacts in recent days.  There is more of that than I've posted too.  Some things are not ready for posting yet.

It is always good to have an idea of what a find might be and what it might mean.  Below is a sample illustration from great web site that talks about how wood-hulled ships are constructed.

And here is the link.


A day or two ago I posted an article about what was speculated to be an impossibly old aluminum part from a UFO.  Believe it or not, I once posted a UFO picture that I took by accident.  Of course I don't don't know what it is, but it looks like classic UFO photos.  You can see it better in the original photo.

I was taking a photo of the bottle and was surprised to see the item just above the top of the bottle.

And here is a closer view of the item.


That is all for today.

Happy hunting,

Monday, October 24, 2016

10/24/16 Report - Strap Gold Bar. 250,000 Year-Old Aluminum Find. Post-Matthew Modern Era Finds. Bigger Surf Coming.

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Gold "Strap" Bar Currently Listed In The Sedwick Coins Auction # 20.
This could be the star of the most recent Sedwick auction. It has an estimated price of $60,000 to $90,0000, and already has a bid of $50,000.  Here is part of what the description says.

Complete gold "strap" ingot for making oro corriente pieces, marked five times with circular tax stamp of Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor (Charles I of Spain) and C inside box, 1128 grams, estimated 22K, very rare, from an unidentified early 1500s wreck in the Caribbean. 10-1/2" x 1-1/4" x 1/4". It is tempting to call this object simply a “gold bar,” but that does not convey its full importance, as its near-uniform flatness and its markings all indicate that this piece is the first example ever recorded of a complete “strap” (in Spanish: riel) for cutting into the known (but very rare) money pieces (small) known as “oro corriente,” which were used in place of actual gold coins (which were in short supply) in the colonies and thus represent the “first fish out of the lake” from the colonies in terms of local gold coinage...

You can find the auction catalog at

The surf Monday is predicted to be only one or two feet, but the surf will start to increase Tuesday and according to the predictions, possibly reaching up to six or seven feet by Thursday.  The tides are still remaining pretty high too.


Not only did Matthew provide access to old shipwreck items, but for many people it opened the window to more older modern era finds such as those shown below.

These Post-Matthew Finds Include A Couple Mercury Dimes and Buffalo Nickle.
Finds and photo by Mark M.

Renken Y. found the following heavy silver ring and military shell, both of which were lost for a good while.

Finds and photos by Renken

The shell casing looks like a WW II era shell.  Many of them were found along the Treasure Coast in the past.  It seems they don't surface as often as they used to.


Source: See link immediately below.
This piece of metal was estimated to be 250,000 years old even though aluminum is a much more modern metal.  Some take this to mean that it must be a part of a UFO wreck.  Personally, I've long doubted the methods used for determining ages and so am not convinced that it is actually that old.  Might be though.

Here is the link to the story.

Thanks to Dean for the link.

Thanks for all the responses to the blog poll.  The poll results showed that my beach ratings and predictions were accurate.

Happy hunting,

Sunday, October 23, 2016

10/23/16 Report - Iron Finds. Poll Results. Parks and Beach Accesses Open and Closed.

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Post-Matthew Iron Find
Iron finds are often very corroded and difficult to identify with precision.  Proper conservation is absolutely necessary if you want to keep them.  I've talked about that in the past and if you search through the blog you'll find excellent instructions on what must be done.

Another Matthew Iron Find.
Some iron finds just won't clean up.  Sometimes the iron will be completely gone and nothing will remain except an empty mold in the shape of the object.  Sometimes other items will be in the clump, so it is good to check.

When I first dug this one I thought it might be a grapeshot, but don't think so now.


The most recent blog poll has closed and the results are in (below).

If you detected since hurricane Matthew, what did you find?

Treasure coin(s) on the Treasure Coast
  5 (9%)
Treasure coin(s) elsewhere
  1 (1%)
Old shipwreck artifact(s) on the Treasure Coast
  4 (7%)
Old shipwreck artifact(s) elsewhere
  1 (1%)
Modern coins and items
  27 (49%)
Nothing but junk
  17 (30%)

As you can see, nearly ten percent of those that responded to the poll and had detected after Hurricane Matthew, found a treasure coin on the Treasure Coast.  That is an important number for me.  It is just right for what I rated as  level 2 detecting conditions for the Treasure Coast.  It is neither to high nor two low.  If it had been much higher I would hope that my rating would have been a three or more.  Of course that was undoubtedly helped along by the high number of people that were out detecting after the storm.

During a "1" rating I would expect almost nobody finding treasure coins, only an extremely rare exception.

You can also see that almost as many people found some type of shipwreck artifact on the Treasure Coast.  That could be almost anything from a spike to a cross or jewelry.

There were also some coins and artifacts reported from other places than the Treasure Coast, but not many.  The majority of those that read this blog are people that detect the Treasure Coast, so it is not surprising that that number is not higher.  

Nearly half of the respondents reported finding modern coins and items, and thirty percent reported finding nothing but junk.

The poll could have been constructed better, and I probably should have allowed multiple responses rather than a single response per person.  I don't take as much time as I should to construct these polls and always find something that I should have done differently.  Nonetheless, the results are still informative.  People did find treasure coins and shipwreck items, and I am very happy that my "2" beach detecting conditions rating seemed to be so accurate - neither too high nor too low.

Not only was it accurately predicted that cobs would be found, but the prediction of how many was also pretty good.

As I said before, Matthew was more like Sandy than Frances or Jeanne.  We got high water and some cobs, but not anything like the erosion and cuts of the other two storms.

Thanks much to all who responded and made this information available.


Darrell S. submitted the following report.

According to my sources here is the following for upcoming week.

Sebastian Inlet State Park on the west side of A1A are reopened.

McLarty Museum reopened.

North Jetty Sebastian Inlet still closed.

Sebastian Bridge was closed, and no update, but assume the entrance to the campground, which is reopen, should be accessible.

ALL Indian River County Parks are under close supervision. Some open, others closed.

Turtle Trail will be closed due to loss of vegetation.

This report is from County Park site posted on October 20th.

Sea Grape is closed for repairs.

Ambersand, Treasure Shore, and Golden Sand were closed but may be open now.

Recreation Department No. 772-567-8000.

Great info Darrel. Thanks much!

I don't know why loss of vegetation results in a beach closing. Most if not all of it was planted recently in renourishment sand and was therefore nothing that you would expect to last more than a few years anyhow.

Saturday, October 22, 2016

10/22/16 Report - Post-Matthew Finds. Musket Balls, Cross and Reales. Florida's Cyber Treasure Hunt. New Luna Wreck Found.

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10-Year-Old Kaylee M.
Showing Her Hurricane Matthew Finds
10-year old Kaylee M. dug five musket balls and an old silver cross after Hurricane Matthew.  Great finds!

Not only does Kaylee like using detectors and finding treasure, but she also got dive certified already! Congratulations Kaylee!!


The Spaniard Luna and about 1,500 soldiers, colonists, slaves and Aztec Indians traveled in 11 ships from Veracruz, Mexico to Pensacola. A hurricane struck Pensacola about a month later, sinking six ships into the bay and wiping out a significant portion of their supplies.

This might be the third Luna expedition shipwreck that has been found.  It is being referred to as Emanuel Point III.  Nearby is a land site that could be associated.

Here is the link.


The blog poll will soon be coming to an end.  I hope you responded.

If you've been watching the poll, you've seen that there were treasure finds made after Hurricane Matthew both on the Treasure Coast and elsewhere.

Here are some cobs and a couple indistinguishable pieces of silver that were found towards the northern end of the Treasure Coast after Hurricane Matthew.

Cobs and Silver Found On The Treasure Coast
After Hurricane Matthew By One Reader.

As wealth becomes digital, future treasure hunters will be scouring networks to find lost or abandoned wealth like we scour the beaches today.  In fact that is already being done.  Maybe you've received an email from someone that found unclaimed funds that are due you.  That is in some cases legitimate.  See for example the State of Florida's

It actually works.  I and others have claimed funds through that web site.

Were you affected by the DDos attacks yesterday?  Our country is skating on very very thin ice. The government seems to have their head stuck in the sand.  One report said, The massive outage drew the attention of the FBI which said Friday that it was "investigating all potential causes" of the attack.  From recent events, I would have thought it would be near impossible to get their attention.

Amazing that the politicians didn't seem to care about computer security until they got the idea that it might affect them getting elected.  They are trying to blame the leakers instead of admitting that they've been leaving the door wide open to the entire world by being so careless about computer security.  When one server is vulnerable, every computer that communicates with it is more at risk. Therefore you see a wide range of related users being affected.  The leakers did us a big favor if it wakes up some people.

I'm dropping my Treasure Coast Beach Detecting Conditions Rating back down to a 1.  It could very well increase again in a few days if the predictions are correct.

We'll have a few days of smaller surf and then towards the end of next week some pretty big surf again.  Looks promising.

Happy hunting,

Friday, October 21, 2016

10/21/16 Report - Jupiter Erosion. Finding Treasure By Following the Tracks In The Sand. Two Reale Find.

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Eroded Dunes Jupiter Area Beach.
Source: See link below.

There is about a six foot cut along Carlin Park in Jupiter.  Here is the link submitted by Trae R,


I mentioned the other day about stopping at a beach to detect where I saw that someone else had already detected.  You can often but not always tell if someone has detected a beach before you.  You can see their tracks, and you can see the holes they dug even if they filled them in.  You can get a lot of information from signs like that.

On busy beaches, you might not be able to see tracks left by other detectorists, but on the Treasure Coast most wreck beaches aren't  that busy so you can often see the foot prints made by individuals.  I pay attention to those things.  In fact, I recognize the tracks of some detectorists.  I know the tracks of one fellow with big feet that often visits one of wreck beach, for example.

The other day when I stopped at the beach where I dug the choker, one of the first things I noticed after noticing from the promising shape of the beach, was a set of tracks along the bottom of the dune cliff.  Those tracks went back and forth in even spaces making five rows of tracks.  The foot prints were closer than when a person walks normally.  There was no doubt in my mind that a detectorists had gridded the area directly in front of the cliff.  I also noticed that there were very few holes, and he did a nice job of filling them, but it was still easy to see where the holes were.

I used that information.  Somebody had detected there.  They detected a tight grid at the bottom of the cliff.  And they dug a few (very few) targets.  It was not a beginner.  Beginners normally run a more random search pattern and do not go so slow and carefully.  There would be a larger space between their steps.

In this case I didn't choose to spend my time checking where the detectorist had already detected.  I do that sometimes, and that can be worthwhile, especially if you use another type of detector and are targeting something specific, but since I was in a hurry, I looked at where he dug his few holes, and checked down the slope closer to the water directly below the holes.  Bingo!  I hit the first coins in a coin line almost immediately.  It also turned out to be near the center of a coin line, where the quarters and other things were accumulating.  In a few minutes I had dug several coins and the gold choker and left knowing that I was undoubtedly leaving more good targets.  I didn't take the time to finish it out in this case.

Did you know that you might be leaving that much information for other detectorists to use?  If you aren't that competitive, you might not care ( I don't), but some experienced detectorists actually take steps to prevent others from benefiting from the tracks that they leave.

That just reminded me that I have in the past talked about tracking treasure as if you were an Indian tracking deer or some other game.  This is one element of that.

Some old timers would take steps to cover their tracks.  One way is to work just ahead of an incoming tide.  That will cover your tracks for you.

Some old timers would mislead those that follow them by digging holes where there were no targets at all.  Some would even drop a nail or pull tab by a hole where they removed a good target.

Some would try to make their holes less obvious by spreading the sand to really disguise the hole and kicking rocks or seaweed over the hole.

My main point today is that there might be good useful information in the tracks left by those that detect a beach before you.  I didn't start out with the intent of giving you a glimpse into some of the tricks of the old timers, but you might find that interesting or enjoyable anyhow.


I was expecting to receive pictures of cobs found after Hurricane Matthew, but haven't recieved them yet.  I'll go ahead and post one - a two reale.

Mexico 2 Reale
This one like many beach found cobs is way weight.  It is about 4.3 grams.


There is only one day remaining on the blog poll.  I'd appreciate your responses.

Happy hunting,