9/19/19 Report - Beach Conditions Along The Treasure Coast. Ten Centavo Coin.

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John Brooks Early Thursday

I took a look at John Brooks and Frederick Douglass beaches this morning just before 9 AM and found the water coming up fairly high.  It was hours before high tide, and it looked like the water would get as high as after Dorian.  The next two days the water is expected to be even higher than today.

John Brooks Before 9 AM Thursday.

Frederick Douglass Beach Just Before 9 AM Thursday.

Notice the shell line.  There haven't been many shells lately.

Frederick Douglass Beach Just Before 9 AM Thursday.

Yesterday Joe D. visited a lot of the Treasure Coast beaches and sent me photos.  Thanks much Joe.  That should be a lot of help to people wondering what beach conditions are like, whether to make the trip or where to go.

The following series of pictures was taken yesterday by Joe.

Rio Mar.

Vero

Vero Boardwalk

Turtle Trail.

Turtle Trail

Seagrape Trail.

Seagrape Trail.

Wabasso

Wabasso

Golden Sands.

Treasure Shores

Treasure Shores.

Ambersands.

Thanks again Joe.

I looked north of McLarty yesterday and it was about the same.  There were no real cuts anywhere.  The water had been to the foot of the dunes, but where there was a cliff, it was renourishment sand.

I know a lot of people were disappointed so far with all of the high surf we have been having but almost no erosion or cuts.  As I said above, we are supposed to have even higher water the next two days.

I think the big problem is all of the renouishment sand.  It is still protecting the dunes, and there is a lot of it out in front of the beaches too.  Also, the water has been hitting the beaches directly from the east instead of at a an angle.

At this point I can't rate beach conditions as any higher than a 1 (poor).  Maybe that will change soon.  We can hope.

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Here is a coin that John E. says matches his find that I posted yesterday except he isn't able to make out the date.

Cuba 10 Centavo.

Alberto S. commented on that coin.

Very interesting find of a Cuban coin in Vero, makes you wonder how it ended up on a beach there, maybe an American tourist visiting Cuba and returning with some pocket change? As to the words on top of the star; Patria y Libertad translated to English; Country and Liberty. You would find those words on coins of the time which were minted in Philadelphia for the government of Cuba, actually there were several coins minted in Philadelphia see the attached list published by the NGC Collectors Society. The coin found by John E. is probably a Cuban 10 cent coin and not a 1 cent, there are some differences and in the attached image I tried to show some features that distinguish the 1 cent from the 10 cent coins, similar markings are on the 20 cent and the Cuban peso but since he said it was the size of a dime then it probably is the Cuban 10 cent coin, one additional detail is that the C which is visible in the coin that he found is slightly off center which is not something you see in the 20 cent or peso where the first letter of centavo or peso seems to start at the center also, but not sure, I think there is an E following the C.  Personally, I would have been thrilled to make such a find as it is from my country of birth.

 

Thanks Alberto.

If I correctly recall, Sebastian Steve found a similar coin on a Treasure Coast beach.  It does make you wonder how it got there.

There is plenty of weather to watch.  I'll stay on that.

Happy hunting,

Treasureguide@comcast.net

9/18/19 Report - Hurricanes Humberto and Jerry. Erosion in Jupiter Area. Silver Find From Vero Area. And More.

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Source: nhc.noaa.gov

Look at that!  Humberto hasn't completely left yet, and it looks like there will be a Hurricane Jerry headed in this general direction.

Source: nhc.noaa.gov

That could send us even more surf.

I haven't been out and around much yet, but hope to get out this afternoon and should be able to give you a beach conditions rating later today.

With Jerry following Humberto, we might get continued higher surf.

Eroded Beach in Jupiter Area

Photo by Jerry P.

Jerry said he used Ventusky.com, which you'll find on my first blog page, to find an area where conditions might be good, and he found this nicely eroded area.\

Thanks for sharing Jerry.  Very good use of Ventusky to find a good detecting site!

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Here is one nice find from the Vero area.

John E. said, I’m stumped on this one.... exact size of a dime , registers a 21 on equinox 800..... found in about 14 in deep wet sand on treasure beach in vero, can anyone identify?

John E

Find and photo by John E.

He said the words above the star are FRIAY LIBER.

Other Side of Same Coin

Photo by John E.

I'm pretty sure it is a centavo from Cuba and can almost make out a date below the star.  I'd also guess it is silver.  Looks like it to me.   A little research should provide the denomination.

Thanks John.  Nice find!

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Here is an interesting email message I received from Southern Digger concerning a link I posted yesterday.


Hello TG 

Been awhile corresponding but still following up. Archeological site locations on Hutchinson Island and elsewhere along the beaches is no big secret. I recall an old beach mound near the now closed Indian River inlet. I believe some of it has since been washed away. Years ago, a friend and I hiked to a hammock Island near Round Island Park, long before this hammock was developed. We used machetes to cut in to the center, finding old metal rods with eyelet ends which appeared to be from old sailing ship mast supports. Why they ended up way back of the beach we never could determine, unless a camp was made thereon by some 1800's shipwreck survivors.  Also, prehistoric evidence was everywhere. Thought it was interesting and a possible site to return to, we never did, that is until major changes took place thereon. Since then, the under-story was cleared and Univ. of Maryland (I believe) did an archeo survey on the hammock. I was invited to return after that, and did so--still seeing prehistoric evidence in abundance scattered everywhere. This was my last visit when construction began thereon for some type of structure. Another archeo site way to the south exists behind the beach at the water plant. I was asked to direct the Archeo. survey via an Env. firm I worked for at the time--but turned it down and recommend someone else because the end of the survey results and how the report should read were told to me before the project even started. In effect, regardless or not if there are burials. the site would be dozed and built upon. I turned it down even though I would be hired to direct the project because, at the time, I was being trusted on several other volunteer archeo. projects to the south which did not involve the Env. firm; and, I did not want a reputation of being a sellout for the $$$$ and destroy possible burials. That is a strict policy I adhere to to this day because I have seen way to much archaeological and historical sites destroyed and developed in which I had no control over or the power to prevent it from occurring. That is the nature of land development and the destruction of Old Florida. 

Thanks Ken.

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I hope to get out this afternoon. I expect to be able to post a beach conditions rating after that - maybe later today.

At this point I am expecting a few reales to be found this week.

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PM Update.

I looked at a few beaches in the Vero/Sebastian area and saw nothing encouraging at all.   I'm expecting fewer finds now than what I just said above.

Happy hunting,

TreasureGuide@comcast.net

8/8/18 Report - Older World Coins Found in Florida. Tropical Storm Debby.

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Mystery Coin From the Old Finds Box.

I found this in a bunch of miscellaneous world coins that I never looked at much.  As you can see it is heavily worn.  I couldn't see the date, but since Elizabeth II is on it, I knew it couldn't be very old.  Here is what the back looks like.

Back of the Mystery Coin.

It seems to say "half" something, but I couldn't tell what.  I was going to post it as a mystery coin, but then I ran across another coin that is very similar, but not the same.  Here it is.

New Penny.

That won't take much research to figure out now.

One thing that I noticed as I looked through a miscellaneous group of world coins is how, just like with cobs, when you can't see the date, you can still often get a good date range from the monarch that appears on the coin.

I then ran across the following coin with George VI on it.

Coin Showing George VI.

George VI was before Elizabeth II, so I knew this coin was earlier.  I turned it over and was a little surprised by what I saw.

Five Cents.

It is earlier, as expected, but from Hong Kong.

You can find almost anything on Florida beaches, including coins from almost anywhere.

Here is another one from the pile of miscellaneous world coins.

Mexican Coin.

It's not surprising to find a Mexican coin in Florida, but given the condition and everything, I was a little surprised by the date.

Mexico 1929 1 Centavo

Nice looking coin if it wasn't for the corrosion on the other side.  I suspect that the erosion can be removed.

One thing that impressed me as I looked through the world coins was the similarity to many U. S. coins.  You see presidents or monarchs,  a lot of eagles, a lady liberty, oak leaves and olive branches, to name just a few common features.

Notice the crown bearing the incuse word "LIBERTY."  You can find the same thing on some U. S. coins.  Time and time again you'll see features on foreign coins that are almost exactly like those you'll find on U. S. coins.

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Tropical Storm Debbie.
Source nhc.noaa.gov

I've been watching for some tropical weather to move some of the accumulated summer sand.  We now have Tropical Storm Debby, but she is too far away to affect the Treasure Coast.

The small Treasure Coast surf will be getting even smaller for several days.

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