Showing posts with label indians. Show all posts
Showing posts with label indians. Show all posts

Sunday, October 13, 2019

10/13/19 Report - The Path and My Dear Friend Larry.


Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of treasurebeachesreport.blogspot.com.

Old Indian and Wagon Path in West Viriginia
Photo by TreasureGuide

It's a sad day for me.  A dear friend passed way.  He grew up in a house just up the hill and to one side of this path.  Just a couple years ago I took a picture of him walking this path along with his 93 year old aunt.  It was the last time each of them would walk the path that they once joyfully played on as children.

So how did I ever get to know this hidden back woods path?  It started when I met my wife at college about fifty years ago, and I began driving the winding roads from Pennsylvania to West Virginia to pick her up on the weekends.  I'd usually arrived when Hee Haw was on TV.

Well, the years passed.  It only took a minute or so, as it seems.

Eventually I got to know Larry, who was my wife's cousin, along with the rest of my wife's family.  Turns out he was quite an artifact collector.  His father dug old bottles and insulators in the woods, and Larry collected Indian artifacts.

Their house at the top of the path and off just a little to one side was built beside a natural spring, where evidently the Indians spent a lot of time.  Arrowheads littered the ground there, and Larry started collecting them as a child.

Down at the bottom of the hill by the Ohio River, in later years, Larry found a copper point and copper beads that the Carnegie Museum and the Smithsonian both believed were from the Late Hopewell period.  They concluded the point was probably ceremonial and associated with a cremation burial.  The point and beads were also noteworthy because they were found in an area where copper artifacts of that period are very unusual.

Ceremonial Copper Artifacts Found by Larry P.
Here are a few of Larry's other finds.







After I was married, I took my metal detector on a trip to visit my wife's family and started detecting the old path which wound its way up the hill between the homes where the poor Slovenian immigrants settled a few generations earlier.  The first time I detected the path I found a gold 1940s class ring from the same high school my wife's mother and Larry's father attended in their youth.  I found items from their family history, and I also found items from an earlier time, including a horse shoe, crotal bell, musket ball, wagon parts and other older items.

I eventually learned that my ancestors had roots in the same area.  My ancestors included the Wetzels, who were among the earliest white settlers in the area.  John Wetzel was a scout on the western front during the Revolutionary War, but if you want to know more about the Wetzel family, there are books about Lewis Wetzel, whose parents were killed by the Indians when he was a child.  He was wounded and taken by the Indians but escaped and went on a rampage of revenge the rest of his life.  The books clearly describe the adventures of the Wetzels, mostly those of Lewis, and the area around the same path I'm talking about today.

As I think of Larry and that path today, I think of the history it has seen.  The path was used by the Native Americans, followed by pioneers and settlers, and then immigrants from far away places like Slovenia.  It has been used for centuries and is one of too few such places that remains pretty much unchanged, and where besides the birds and blowing leaves you can almost hear the whispers of history.

There was a time when I knew nothing of that path, let alone my ancestors that settled in the area or the history of the immigrants of more recent years, but now, thanks to metal detecting and my dear friend Larry, I've held objects that connect me to those people as well as the more distant past.  I would have never guessed that I would be so connected to that area in so many ways.

The next time I visit that path - and I will - it won't be just any path.  It will be alive, as it is today, with Indians, my long-haired, buck-skinned musket-toting ancestors, as well as the poor immigrants that settled there in the next century because it reminded them of their homeland across the ocean.  But despite the quiet and peace, most of all it will  remind me of the last time I walked down that path with my dear friend Larry.






Thursday, March 2, 2017

3/2/17 Report - Bigger Surf This Weekend. Ancient Trails of America Discovered By Spanish Explorers. Archaeological Pub. HMS Victory Galley and Mess.


Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of treasurebeachesreport.blogspot.com.

Source: See link below.

On August 26, 1776, after descending the eastern side of the Uncompahgre Plateau to the Uncompahgre River Valley, Father Francisco Silvestre Vélez de Escalante wrote, “In the meadow of this river … there is a very wide and well-beaten trail.”
Similarly, on Sept. 9, when the expedition he led with Father Francisco Atanasio Domínguez descended the north side of Douglas Pass, Escalante wrote that the group traveled nearly 30 miles “over a very well-beaten trail with only one bad stretch.”
Since very few Europeans had traveled this region prior to Dominguez and Escalante, it’s clear that these “well-beaten trails” were established by the natives who lived there. In 1776, that meant the Utes. But the trails were likely used by a variety of native people over the ages...
http://www.gjsentinel.com/news/articles/routes-trails-crisscrossed-area-long-before-europe

Having done some hiking in the area I couldn't help thinking how nice it would be to hike those ancient Indian trails.

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The restoration of an historic pub on Falmouth's waterfront has led to some "remarkable" archaeological finds which has delayed the project.

St Austell Brewery are currently restoring and refurbishing the Chain Locker and builders have discovered that not only is the building older than first imagined, but some of the earliest features of the place are still in situ.

This includes an original earth and hair plaster-bounded wall, a timber partition wall featuring hand-painted wallpaper and a stone-built fireplace...


Here is the link for more about that.

http://www.cornwalllive.com/archeological-finds-during-restoration-of-falmouth-s-chain-locker-pub-surprise-st-austell-brewery/story-30163164-detail/story.html

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Not too long ago I talked about galley bricks.  I just found this nice article about the galley of the HMS Victory.  Here is how it begins.

The galley provided the means for cooking hot food for all of the ships crew - at the time of Trafalgar, 821 men. The galley stove burned firewood (kept dry in its own store in the hold). Due to the risk of fire in a wooden ship, the galley fire was put out in rough weather or during action to prevent sparks or burning embers from setting light to the deck around the galley. Crews were often given a hot meal before being called to clear the ship for action - there was little knowing when the next hot meal might be able to be cooked. In rough weather, when the crews were often wet and cold, there was no respite from cold food.


The crew ate in groups of 8 to 12 men known as a 'mess'. These groups remained together throughout a voyage so the men became 'mess-mates'. Each day one man would take his turn as 'duty cook'. It was his responsibility to fetch the day's rations from the hold and to prepare the food for cooking. The prepared food was then taken along to the galley to be cooked (each mess marked its food with a metal tag). The galley cook was often a naval pensioner or wounded sailor - unable to perform the normal heavy shipboard tasks, he cooked the food for all the crew - a cook's pay substantially supplemented the poor pension given to a man wounded in battle. The duty 'mess cook' would then collect the food for his mess and carry it back to his mess-mates...


And here is the link for the rest of the article.

http://www.stvincent.ac.uk/heritage/1797/victory/food.html

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The Oak Island TV program brought in another expert to clean up the "spike" mess.  I expect her, after much study and deliberation, to declare it a shipwreck spike.

Don't know why they never had the board that they thought might be a deck plank dated?

There  was a fellow that used to be on a sitcom that is now a teacher who they were going to follow in the classroom to make a reality program out of it.  They dumped the idea because they said there wasn't enough drama.  Of course the producers are going to try to keep a program exciting to keep the ratings up.

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Hope and change coming.  Looks like the weekend could get interesting.  Its about time.

Source: MagicSeaweed web site.
Happy hunting,
TreasureGuide@comcast.net


Friday, February 27, 2015

2/27/15 Report - Legends & Superstitions of the Sea & Sailors. Ancient Coin Resource. Fort Pierce Inlet Partially Open.


Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of treasurebeachesreport.blogspot.com.

John Brooks Beach This Morning Near Low Tide.
Not a pretty morning.  Rainy along the coast.  Not heavy rain though   A little cooler too.

The beaches weren't good.  John Brooks looked very poor.  There are piles of new sand on the front beach, and a sand bar not very far out.  There is a lot of sand that needs to be moved.


Beautiful Fort Pierce Beach.
Right in the middle of tourist season, they make it ugly and inaccessible again.  Seems like they do that every year.

The inlet is open for smaller boats, I think.  There was one boat patrolling the area of the wrecked barge to keep people away from the wreckage, which is not visible above water.

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How about that group of 355 silver coins from one small lot!  One person took action after reading about the demolished house and the silver coins in the walls.  A lot of people read the same story but didn't follow up on it.  

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I visited one beach in front of a hotel today.  I ran zero discrimination and hit some coins, one piece of jewelry and only one piece of junk.  Why was there only one piece of junk?  Because I cleaned the junk out the last two times I was there.

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Here is an interesting free digital book that you might want to read.  It is Legends and Superstitions of the Sea and of Sailors by Fletcher Bassett, 1885.

Click here to go to that Google ebook.

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The native populations that European colonists encountered in North America as they spread across toward the west of the continent were defined at least in part by their patterns of warfare, say a team of researchers.

Here is the link for that article.

http://popular-archaeology.com/issue/winter-01012015/article/researchers-discover-patterns-of-warfare-in-prehistoric-eastern-north-America

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If you are interested in scholarly studies of ancient coins here is a great resource.  It provides access to the numismatic chronicle and journal of the Royal Numismatic Society.

http://ancientworldonline.blogspot.com/2010/09/open-access-journal-numismatic.html

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Tomorrow's surf on the Treasure Coast is predicted to be 4 - 6 feet, and Sunday, 4 - 7 feet.   The North winds we have today will be shifting to be more easterly over the weekend.  That is too bad.

Happy hunting,
TreasureGuide@comcast.net

Sunday, October 20, 2013

10/20/13 Report - Overdate Eight Escudo and Geneaological Research Again


Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of treasurebeachesreport.blogspot.com.


This cob is off to a fast start in the most recent SedwickCoins auction.  It has among the highest bids so far in the category. Yesterday it already had a bid of $26,000 with an upper end of $30,000 for the expected value.  It will likely exceed the expected value, judging from the good start.

Here is the catalog description from the online auction.

Lima, Peru, cob 8 escudos, 1703/2H, from the 1715 Fleet, very rare (unique overdate), encapsulated NGC MS 62. S-L25a; KM-38.1 ;CT-13. 26.9 grams. This is an exciting coin: For starters it is lustrous Mint State and well struck, well centered (also aligned axes) and with virtually full legends, which enables the advanced researcher to study the dies carefully. The cross side is an exact match with Tauler #219, but the pillars-side die is previously unknown, either for 1702 or 1703 (of which only 2-3 of each are known, none in the State of Florida collection), with a straight-bottom crown that ended in 1703. The overdate is hard to see (NGC missed it, after all), due to minor doubling (localized to that spot only), but an overlay comparison with the "2" on the 1702 in our Auction #6 (lot 21) proves it. A unique coin like this has unlimited potential, but for comparison we would like to point out that the only other 1703 we have sold (Auction #3 lot 8, which was the highlight of the 2003 Tampa sale, where it sold for $13,250) realized $17,250 in 2008. Also note the previously cited 1702 sold for $25,300 in 2009! From the 1715 Fleet, with photo-certificate.

Not only a great cob, but an overdate.  Examine found coins closely for errors.

I'd advise going through the auction description and looking at the photos to see if you can see what is described.  That is a good way to learn.



I'm going to recommend that you do some genealogical research once again.  I know I've done that before, but I am so amazed at what I recently found that I can't help recommending it again.  I was blown away.

Six generations back into my ancestry I found information about Captain John Wetzel, who came from Holland, was a captain in the Revolutionary War and was killed by the Indians.

I'm not to the part that blew me away yet.

He had a couple of sons, Lewis, the more famous one, and John Jr., who is in my direct ancestral line.

Captain John, the father of John and Lewis, was killed by the Indians while Lewis was still young, and Lewis was shot in the chest and captured by the Indians at the age of 13 and later escaped.  He managed to survive the injury even though it fractured his sternum.  As a result of the killing of his father and his own injury and capture by the Indians, he vowed vengeance against the Indians and ended up collecting a rather large number of scalps.

My good fortune is that a book was written about him in the 1800s, not long after his life on this earth was concluded.  There are also historical references to him in other history books.

The account of frontier life in the 1780s is fascinating reading.  It is hard to imagine that it was actually like that.  Political correctness does not permit accurate description of the violence.  And seldom do you find such good descriptions of daily life on the frontier back then.

Here is the part that blew me away.

Much of the drama of Lewis' life took place at Mingo Bottom.   Doesn't sound like any big deal.   Well, I've shown photos of a wagon trail and Indian trail that takes off from Mingo Bottom in this blog.  I've detected that trail numerous times.  It goes through the property where my wife grew up in West Virginia, and I'm as familiar with the trail as the back of my hand.  Numerous arrow heads and artifacts have been found along that trial by my wife's family and I've shown a few finds from the trail in this blog, including things like a horse shoe, buckle, bell, etc.

Now that blew me away.  I had no idea that my ancestors had walked the same ground back in the 1780s that I've walked many times myself and detected a few times.   I would never in a million years have guessed that.  A horse shoe or artifact that I picked up may have actually been from one of my ancestors.  I now know that is entirely possible.  And before very recently when I discovered the wealth of reference material about Lewis and his family, I had absolutely no idea.

Of all the places in the country, I was absolutely amazed to learn that I've been tromping the same area as my ancesters from the 1780s, and I didn't even know it until a night or two ago.

Many times I've passed a spot on the river that Lewis swam across while making an escape.  It is no small river either.  The location is precisely described in more than one historical resource.  I know it well.

In this blog I've shown some of the Indian artifacts from the same area that one of my wife's family members collected.  I didn't know that my ancestors were there battling the Indians hundreds of years ago.

Some coincidences just seem too unlikely.  It makes you wonder if it just an amazing coincidence or something else?

Not long ago I used the term personal history.  This is certainly personal history for me.

I've wondered why I like the mountains so much?   Just the other day I showed a scene of a cabin site in the Rocky Mountains in this blog.  Is there something more than coincidence to explain it?

Personal history isn't created or owned by academics, professionals, or museums.  It is a part of your life and mine, if you are lucky enough to chase it long enough to find it.   In fact I think the professionals do it damage, reducing in some way what they claim to offer.

Sometimes I've wondered why I do this blog.  I might be a little closer to knowing now.

This isn't about me and my ancestors.  It is about everyone.  It is about you and yours too.

You never know where the lines will cross.  You never know until you connect the dots.

Once again, I highly recommend doing your own genealogical research.  You have an ancestry, and there is something fascinating about discovering how you ended up where you did.  You might not find a lot quickly or easily, but take your time.   That is the way it goes with treasure.

Here is a link to the resource where I found a lot of information about my ancestors who lived a very adventurous life in the 1700s.   If you like history or adventure stories, you might like reading this.

http://archive.org/stream/lifeandadventur00hartgoog#page/n98/mode/2up


Old Indian and Wagon Trail in W. Va.
The last time I mentioned this particular West Virginia trail was in my 5/25/13 post in which I showed the following picture of the trail I am talking about today.


There are no storms in the tropics to watch.

On the Treasure Coast we are having a 1 - 2 foot surf, which is predicted to decrease through Wednesday.  After that it will start to increase a bit, but is predicted to jump up to 4 - 6 feet next Sunday.

If that actually happens it very well might result in a long overdue beach conditions upgrade.

This weekend we still have high low tides.

Happy researching.


Happy hunting, TreaureGuide@comcast.net


Tuesday, March 8, 2011

3/9/11 Report - Sandy Point Wreck Site & Nautilus Shells



Google Earth View of Sandy Point Wreck Site.

Adapt or go the way of the dinosaurs. That is something that was on my mind this morning.

One of the problems with having a lot of experience is that you might tend to fall into old habits instead of continually assessing and reevaluating what you are doing.

You might have found things that worked in the past that aren't working now. And you might have had spots that produced in the past that aren't producing now. That woudn't be at all unusual, especially under the present conditions.

Cuts that looked like the cuts that we recently saw on some of the beaches used to produce but didn't seem to be producing this time. They looked pretty much like the old cuts that used to produce, but there were differences. The recent cuts were much further east and on top of, or out in front of, tons of sand. That is a big difference.

It takes a long-term perspective to realize that. If you have only been detecting for a couple of years, there is no way you could realize that.

I talked about this a little not long ago. One spot might lose sand year after year and be eroded back close to where the sand hasn't been disturbed in at least the last fifty years. If that particular spot eroded, the new cut would have a much better chance of producing old items than a spot that had a much bigger cut but which was cut into sand that has been accumulating over more recent years.

The closer you get to old sand that hasn't been disturbed for a long time, the better the chances are of finding some old items there.

John Brooks beach had a pretty nice looking cut last week, but that cut was in sand that had accumulated over the summer, and was on top of many layers of sand that covered the sand that was exposed back in 2004.

Occasionally a cob or two will fall out of recent cuts like that, but thoe conditions are not nearly as good as a cut in a place that is exposing old sand that hasn't been disturbed for a long time.

Unfortunately it takes a while for all those layers of recently accumulated sand to disappear, especially when they keep dumping new sand on our beaches all of the time.

Someone once asked me what level 5 conditions on my 5 point TCTBDC Rating Scale would look like. I showed a photo of a beach after the 2004 hurricanes as the example. You can probably find that post if you use the search box at the top of this blog.

John Brooks simply has tons and tons of sand on the beach right now. Again, that doesn't mean a cob or two won't be washed up and exposed occasionally, but those aren't the conditions that I like to see.

You can learn to identify the different layers of sand on a given beach. The sand will vary in courseness and color. Sometimes you will be able to identify the type of sand that produces old items. At different beaches it will be different. On many of the beaches it will be a nice course brown sand.

I do believe that there are some artifacts on the front of some of the beaches right now. They are hard to get to though. Right now smany of them are buried beyond what you can dig out. I'm waiting for the depth of the sand on some of the front beaches to decrease so I can go get the artifacts.

I recently mentioned Sandy Point and someone wrote in and asked where that is. That is why I posted the view of Sandy Point today. It is about a three mile walk from the Rio Mar beach access, and of course less from the Vero South Beach parking lot. I don't think it would be much different walking from Round Island Park that is south of Sandy Point. The wreck near there is thought to be the Nuestra Senora Del Rosario.

I mentioned that there was a good spot to look for shells just south of the Fort Pierce Inlet on Monday. The shell pile is now gone, but here is one nice shell that I picked up Monday.

Two Nautilus Shells Found on Treasure Coast Beaches.

The one I found Monday is the small one. These types of shells are not often found on the East Coast and are paper thin. I took one picture of the small one on my finger and you could see my finger through the shell. I found the other one a few years ago.

Like I said, that one shell pile was gone today, but there was sand continuing to build on the few beaches that I looked at this morning. The cuts at John Brooks continued to deteriorate and sand continued to pile up on the other beaches.

The seas are about five feet today, but the wind is from the south/southeast. As you know that is typically not good. Expect sand to continue to build on our local beaches while the seas decrease over the next few days.

You might think about some off-beach hunting until things change.


Travel Book Printed in 1830.

Or maybe do some research. Old rare books often provide good research material.


Happy hunting,
TreasureGuide@comcast.net