Showing posts with label detecting. silver. Show all posts
Showing posts with label detecting. silver. Show all posts

Saturday, June 8, 2013

6/8/13 Report - Half Real, Le Grffin Shipwreck and Beach Conditions


Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of treasurebeachesreport.blogspot.com.

Another Treasure Coast Half Reale Find.
The above find is another Mexican minted half reale.  Not much detail on this one.  \



Profile of One Beach As Seen Yesterday Morning
The above is a good photo showing a beach profile.  It shows two steps, shells in front of the steps, and a sand bar right on the front of the beach.

This photo was taken yesterday morning near high tide.  As you can see, the high tide didn't get up very high yesterday morning.  Maybe later high tides did.



Turtle Track Leading  Over 2 Foot and On 7 Foot Cut

















I thought the above photo was interesting.  Most of the turtles were coming up to the first step, stopping and going back into the water.  This one, however, went over the first step and almost all the way up the face of the second step before giving up.   The distance this turtle made it up the almost vertical seven foot cliff is truly impressive.

That was one determined and vigorous turtle.  Turtles, like people, are different.  Some are more stubborn and determined than others.


I had a video clip showing how rip tides are formed, but for some reason I couldn't get it to upload.  I saw it the other day.  It did not turn into a rip tide while I was there, but it did show how exactly how it would happen.

I could see the water coming up over the bar and then rushing along the shore and then out at the first low spot.  The water came from both south and north before it ran out the one low spot.  The water rushing out forms a depression that deepens and becomes bigger, catching more water and becoming stronger.

If you hunt in the water, the first time you get caught in a rip tide can be frightening and dangerous if you don't understand it and know what to do.  Instead of trying to go directly against the current, go parallel to the shore and you'll get out of the current.  I still remember the first time I got caught in one.

Yesterday morning the surf really calmed down early in the morning - I'd say about 9 AM after the rain storms moved away from my area.  I think the wind must have shifted to come out of the West.  Then there was nothing but a gentle swell lapping up onto the beach for a while.  From the look of the beach, there was more action the previous night.

Like I said yesterday, it has been day-by-day lately.  The wind has been shifting frequently as the different storms move through the area.  And as I also said yesterday, I believe that even local events like a quick thunder storm can cause erosion, and then cause it to disappear just as quickly.

For tomorrow on the Treasure Coast the surfing web sites are predicting a 1 - 2 foot surf, increasing about a foot later in the weekend. The wind Saturday will be mostly from the South if the predictions are correct.


I've not been happy with Google on many occasions.  I've had to start using Google Chrome because when I edit my posts with IE, some features won't work.  I do not believe that is unintentional.  It seems they do what they can to force you to use their products and give them an unnecessary amount of information.  It turns out they and other companies are handing the information over to the NSA and who knows who else.   They data that they mine includes Gmail, voice, chat and much more.  And then when they get hacked by the Chinese, they'll have it for whatever use they want to put it to, whether it is financial or identity fraud or whatever.

Here is one story about how the government gathers tons of information from companies like google.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/us-intelligence-mining-data-from-nine-us-internet-companies-in-broad-secret-program/2013/06/06/3a0c0da8-cebf-11e2-8845-d970ccb04497_print.html

If interested, you'll be able to find many more links on similar stories.

With all of the data they have on us, it is no wonder they couldn't pick out the signs of the Boston marathon bombers.  It is easier to hide significant things when there are too many other things to hide in, like when you try to find a good target in a picnic area full of pull tabs or other junk, or hear a good signal in a lot of noise.



Le Griffin is the oldest known shipwreck in the Great Lakes. The Michigan Department of Natural Resources and the state archaeologist's office think they may have found it and hope to identify it during a planned excavation.. During its maiden voyage in September 1679, the Griffin departed from the area near present-day Green Bay, carrying a cargo of furs when it disappeared.

Here is more about that.


http://lacrossetribune.com/news/state-and-regional/wi/team-to-excavate-griffin-lake-michigan-



I'll leave my "2" Treasure Coast Beach Detecting Conditions Rating on for today even though I consider it a minimal 2.

Happy hunting,
TreasureGuide@comcast.net


Friday, June 7, 2013

6/7/13 Report - Tropical Storm Andrea, Detecting Conditions Upgrade & More


Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of treasurebeachesreport.blogspot.com.

The beach has been very dynamic lately.  It has been changing everyday - not always in a good way. 

This beach had a seven foot cut back a few days ago.  A couple of days ago the cut started to fill with new sand.  Then what I found yesterday is that a second step was cut into the beach.  The new cut was in front of the old cut.


Yesterday Afternoon Around Low Tide.


In the photo above, at the top you see a six foot cut, about ten yards in front of that cut was a second cut, that despite what the photo shows, ran continuously for a few hundred yards.  
 
In front of the bottom cut was a flat and compact beach front.

Same Beach Showing Shells

You can see the shells on the flat beach in front of the cuts.  There were also a lot of shells on the top of the first step up.  You can't see that in this photo.  Again the back cliff was six or seven feet, and the front cliff about two feet.

Andrea sent us some rain and thunder storms.  It rained just after I took these photos.  There was lightening too.

I could tell the local rain storm was coming closer because I could hear the signals caused by lightening in my ear phones.

I don't mind rain at all, but be careful when lightening is approaching.  Like I said, you can often hear it in the distance in your ear phones.

Below is a quick video clip looking down from above the cuts.



Yesterday I said it is starting to feel like summer and now we have our first tropical storm of the season to track.

Below is the NOAA track.


As you can see the storm is going to cross North Florida and head up the East Coast.  As of this morning, I hear it is up by the Carolinas.

The surfing web sites are predicting a 1 - 3 foot surf Friday and through the weekend.  The wind will be mostly from the south and southeast for the next few days.  That isn't great even though we did get some erosion before Thursday afternoon.

The one thing that is hard to account for is local storms that make the wind and waves kick up.  Even a local short-term things like that can under the right circumstances cause some erosion.



A study of deep-sea trash.  The biggest category was plastic (largely bags) followed by metal.  They described where trash accumulates and the effects.  I found a lot of interest in this article.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/06/130605144328.htm



It is really day by day now.   I'm going to upgrade my Treasure Coast Beach Detecting Conditions Rating to a 2, but don't expect it to last long.   The surf this morning got real smooth.  Lots of shells are washing up.

I'll have some pictures of some finds for you soon.

Happy hunting,
TreasureGuide@comcast.net

Monday, March 26, 2012

3/26/12 Report - Silver Finds & More


Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of treasurebeachesreport.blogspot.com.

JUST IN: Instead of waiting for tomorrow's post, I thought you needed to see this today.

http://www.lex18.com/news/treasure-hunters-proposal-hits-road-block-in-ky-

You might want to contact your Kentuky representative. Our recent actions in Florida effectively blocked one unwanted bill. You might want to support this one in Kentucky.


Piece of Ornate Silver Found At Treasure Coast Shipwreck Beach.

This was obviously used on some object as ornamentation. I think it looks like it might have been on a gun, but I don't have any good evidence of that. I do think it is off of something utilitarian. It appears shaped to fit around working parts. But I don't know.

It reminds me of my first shipwreck silver find on the Treasure Coast. At first I thought that first find was a very worn coin - what they used to call a razor, but now I really don't think it was a coin.

It was rectangular and about the size of a four reale, but had no detail left on the surface at all. I think it was a part of some artifact, but there isn't enough detail remaining to give any clues.

One of the problems with beach detecting is the effect of salt water, especially on metals like silver. Older items are usually not in good shape, but there are some rare exceptions.

1923 Beach Found Coin.

This coin, for example, is in unusually nice condition for being found on a salt water beach.

Silver coins like this are more often black and/or encrusted.

One nice half reale that I found at Jupiter Beach a few years ago had one side that was heavily encrusted with sand. When the sand was removed I found the side that was protected by the crust to be very sharp - almost like it had just been struck.

The side that wasn't encrusted was not nearly as nice.


Silver Dime Found in Cold Fresh Water Lake.

I've mentioned this before, but I very often like silver coins that are found in fresh water lakes, especially in cold water. When I hunted one lake in Minnesota, the coins, like the one shown here, all had a nice blue patina and little or no corrosion.


The remains of the historic Ironworks and Shipbuilding Company were recently uncovered.

Here is the link to that story.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-17488425

Some people don't always like how I sometimes use the word "story." It seems that to them it implies fiction. I don't always mean it that way.


I was looking for shipwrecks near the island of St. Lucia the other day and ran across this list of shipwrecks. You might find it useful or interesting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_shipwrecks


A fishing boat that washed out to seas when a tsunami hit Japan over a year ago has been discovered floating off of British Columbia.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/23/world/americas/canada-trawler-adrift/index.html?hpt=hp_t3


Treasure Coast Beach Detecting Conditions.


Well the wind is from the north again. Another front passe through and we got some cooler air this morning.

The seas are calm, though. The swells will be increasing to a peak of around five feet by tomorrow morning. Unfortunately by that time the wind will have shifted and will be coming out of the east.

These fronts passing through quickly and not doing much. We need a long sustained northeaster and we haven't had one for a long time.

I don't really want a hurricane, just a nice northeaster that sits of the coast and blows for a while.


Happy hunting,
TreaureGuide@comcast.net

Wednesday, February 22, 2012

2/22/12 Report - Comparing Diggers & Silver Prices


Old Sailing Ships Are Works of Art.

Last week when I was off-beach, I used a digger that I hadn't used before. On the beach I almost always use a stainless steel scoop with a long handle. At the site I was at the other day, I didn't want to use such a big scoop for various reasons. For one thing, I didn't want to make big holes.

I selected the black plastic digger shown in the photo below that day. It had been in my trunk, but I hadn't used it before.

The Gator-Digger (with the orange handle) also in the photo below, is the one I dug up on a treasure beach a couple of weeks ago.

While using the black plastic digger that I received free when I purchased a detector some time ago, I found it had a some very nice features. I was using it primarily in dry and wet fine sand

A Couple Diggers.

One of the things I liked about it was the fact that it is all plastic. You can drop it right by the hole and detect over it if you need to pin-point. Or you can wave it right under or over your coil with the sand still in it to see if the object is in it too. I found the all-plastic construction very handy.

It has inch markings on it so you can see how deep the object or how deep your hole is. I didn't find that very useful.

One thing that I liked about the little black digger is the shape. The sides of the concave scoop held the sand very nicely, particularly wet sand, when you picked up the digger. I liked that a lot. Sometimes it was almost like plugging.

The Gator-Digger is more heavy duty, but I didn't need anything heavy on this occasion.

I always say that detectors are something like golf clubs. You choose the one that will work best for the particular situation. Scoops and diggers are like that too.

The Gator-Digger, being made of heavy duty metal and having serrated edges, might be the better choice when you are in grass or harder earth. The serrated edges allowa you to saw through small roots.

The other day there were times when I found deep targets that I wished that I was using a bigger scoop, but overall I was happy with the little black digger. It worked well in fine sand, and I really appreciated the advantages of the all-plastic construction.

Harry Miller, in Numismatic News, posted the December clcsing prices for silver for the last decade.

Here are the numbers.

2001 – $4.58 no change
2002 – $4.80 + 4.8 %
2003 – $5.95 +24 %
2004 – $6.81 +14.3 %
2005 – $8.82 +29.6 %
2006 – $12.82 +45.3 %
2007 – $14.80 +15.4 %
2008 – $11.27 -26.8 %
2009 – $16.82 +49.3 %
2010 – $30.91 +83.7 %
2011 – $27.88 -9.8 %


And here is the link.

http://www.numismaster.com/ta/numis/Article.jsp?ad=article&ArticleId=24778

This doesn't include the time period when the Hunt brothers caused the price to go above fifty dollars an ounce. I think that was in the eighties.

And you have to remember that the dollar has become worth much less in the same time period.

Nonetheless, silver prices have risen rather consistently in dollar terms.

Today it is around $34.35.


Today on the Treasure Coast the wind is out of the southwest. Seas are claming down again. They'll be increasing on Friday, but only to recent levels. Not enough to change beach conditions significantly.

I just realized that I didn't talk at all about what I planned to talk about today. Guess I'll get back to that some other day.


Happy hunting,
TreasureGuide@comcast.net

Monday, January 2, 2012

1/2/12 Report - Silver Medallion Finds & Tapir Tooth


Written by the Treasureguide for the exclusive use of treasurebeachesreport.blogspot.com.

Religious Medallions Found with Metal Detector.

Religious medallions are relatively common detector finds. They can be centuries old or almost new, and made of gold, silver, or other metals.

The medallions shown here are a few decades old and fairly heavy silver.

These medallioins, as you might suspect from simply looking at them, were not found on a salt water beach. They were found in a fresh water lake near Minneapolis.

I've mentioned before how I like the silver coins found in the cold northern fresh water lakes. They tend to get a nice bluish patina. Silver that has been immersed in salt water, on the other hand, are often in very poor condition and sometimes nearly black.

You can often tell a lot about where silver was found by the patina.

Some pieces of silver jewelry can be a lot more valuable than the melt value. Watch out for more valuable designer pieces and Mexican silver.

One of the disadvantages of hunting in salt water or on the salt water beaches is the poor condition of older silver items. Silver coins found on salt water beaches are usually in poor condition. Gold, though, stays very nice even in salt water.

One thing you might do if you have a lot of badly corroded silver, is take a class on jewelry making or lost wax casting. You can then use damaged silver make jewelry of your own design.

I personally like some patina on my silver jewelry. The patina highlights the detail and gives it a nice seasoned vintage look.

Don't forget Bill's coin cleaning instructions that I have listed in my treasure link list to the left of these posts. Look on the left and scroll down until you find the treasure link list.

Silver is now about $28 per ounce.



A woman found her gold ring that she lost 16 years earlier on a carrot that she pulled from her garden.

http://spiritdaily.com/A11ring.htm

Protect your plants from the cold tonight. They might pay you back.


I heard of a shark bite down by Jupiter yesterday.


The fossil tooth that I posted recently isn't a peccary tooth as I conjectured. Fred D., our resident fossil expert sent me an email telling what it actually is.

Here is what he said.

The tooth is most definitely a tapir tooth and judging by the cone cusps, a very early species. Most likely Tapirus Haysi, early Plesitocene. A Perissocactyl related to the horse because it is hoofed.

Thanks Fred.


It is hard to imagine that it is already the second day of 2012.


A cold front will be coming through this afternoon and tomorrow night we'll probably have a freeze warning on the Treasure Coast. The wind is now out of the west and the seas calm but the seas will increase to about four or five feet soon. That probably isn't enough to change beach hunting conditions much, but it might improve a few spots just a little.


Happy Hunting,
TreasureGuide@comcast.net

Monday, September 26, 2011

9/27/11 Report - Beach Front Cobs - How They Get There


Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of treasurebeachesreport.blogspot.com.

Raft Recently Found on Treasure Coast Beach.

I don't know if this is from immigrants floating in or something else. It reminds me of other rafts that I've seen on the beach, although most of them were much more substantial and used by Cubans arriving at South Florida.

Thanks to Bob H. for the photo. He said this raft was found on the beach north of the Island Dunes complex.

A few days ago I mentioned Odyssey Marine and wondered if it would repeat the previous pattern of rebounding sharply after a big drop in the stock price. Well, as I expected, it did - but not as sharply as the last time. The increase has been more gradual, even though yesterday it increased almost eight percent. At times yesterday, it was up nearly 20%. It also increased very nicely the two previous days of trading as well.

I received a link to a story this morning suggesting that the recent share price increase is due to the Gairsoppa project.

The Gairsoppa is believed to hold a cargo of silver worth more than $210 million today. Odyssey's salvage agreement with the United Kingdom will give Odyssey 80 percent of the net salvaged value of the silver recovered.

Thanks to Jim M. for submitting the following link to that story.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Odyssey-Marine-pops-on-apf-2722516200.html?x=0&.v=4

The expected value of that silver will be less if the price of silver continues to decrease. The price of silver has gone from over $40 an ounce to around $30 this month.

The spot price of gold is about $1657 this morning. It was up to $1900 not long ago.


Yesterday I talked about analyzing beaches. You might want to refer back to the sketch that I used yesterday. I'll talk a little today about how old treasure coins move on a beach.

First, you might recall that I did a survey once asking where people had found old treasure coins on the beach. The results confirmed what I had personally found. Treasure coins have been found on almost every part of a beach at one time or another - even in places, that according to some theories, would be surprising.

You might also recall that I mentioned yesterday how the sand on the front of a beach is frequently eroded and replaced. On the very front of the beach sand is lost and replaced many times each year, while on the back beach, the sand is not moved nearly as often or as much.

Of the treasure coins found on the front beach, most are washed in at one time or another. It might appear that they were washed out of the beach by recent erosion when they appear below a cut, but in most cases they had to wash in first. That could occur either when the beach was building or when the level of the beach was cut down and the water was high and coming in and dropping coins on the lowered beach. In front of a cut there is some pretty heavy wave action that could bring in coins and drop them at the base of a cut.

I've actually seen cobs fall out of the face of a cut as the beach was cutting, so I know they wash out at times. On the front beach, the question is how those cobs got in the sand that was cutting in the first place. Remember, on the front beach, the sand has been removed many times and then replaced. When the dunes are low and far back, there is no way for the coins to get on the front beach other than washing in at some point.

Between the two methods mentioned above, the most likely is that the cobs are washed in by the rough surf when the front of the beach has been lowered.

I've never found cobs on the surface of a building beach, although I have found them on the surface just above the face of a cut and in the sea weed line on uncut beaches. However, cobs are never, or should I say almost never, found on or near the surface of a beach front that has a lot of newly accumulated sand on it.

I've seen coins flip up over the face of a cliff, so I have some idea how that can happen. It also appears that small cobs can under certain circumstances travel with the shells, and they are sometimes found in the with the shells above the face of a cut.

If you watch items move in the surf on the front of the beach, there is a lot of variation on how they move at different times. Sometimes they'll wash up the slope, sometimes down the slope and sometimes move more sideways. Sometimes they'll flip, sometimes slide, and sometimes roll, and sometimes they'll pretty much stick where they are as they seem to bury themselves. There are many variables to take into account. I definitely can't get into all of that now.

Anyhow, I am sure that cobs wash onto the front beach where they are later uncovered by erosion. It appears to me that they mostly wash in when the surf is rough and the level of sand has been lowered and there is strong wave action all the way back to the face of the cut. After they wash in and are deposited, they are covered as the old cut fills and the beach builds again.

That is my best theory anyhow. I'll have to get around to talking about other situations and other parts of the beach some other time.

I reminded of some other factors that I don't have time to get into today.

I guess I'll stop there today.



Treasure Coast Beach Forecast and Conditions

The surf web sites are now predicting higher seas, up to 6.5 feet by Monday. then Calm seas are expected for a few days and then starting to increase this weekend.

Very often the surf web sites predict higher seas several days in advance but as the time draws nearer the predictions for big seas either disappear or is reduced very significantly. Hopefully will actually get six foot or higher seas.

Philippe seems headed into the mid Atlantic. Opehlia could form again and might be the reason for the predicted higher seas.

Until then, conditions on the Treasure Coast remain poor.


Happy hunting,
Treasureguide@comcast.net

Sunday, September 18, 2011

9/18/11 Report - Half Reale, Gold Prices & Another Super Bowl Ring Found


Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of treasurebeachesreport.blogspot.com.

Half Reale Find.

Scott made this find and submitted the photo.

He had previously found some copper sheathing and square nails. Those types of artifacts can be what I sometimes call "signal finds." They are not usually primary targets but can be important because they can be a signal, or indicator, that there might be other things in the area.

Copper sheathing, being found in thin sheets, will often be found before cobs are found. They can be found when conditions are not good enough to find cobs in numbers.

The same goes for spikes and nails. Spikes and nails are often very numerous and also found when conditions are not good enough to find cobs in great numbers. Therefore, they are also good signal finds.

One of the first steps in beach hunting old items is to locate an area that is more promising than most of the beach. Signal finds can help you do that. As I said, signal finds are often found in the same general area as cobs, but often found before cobs are found.

Other Side of Same Cob.

It looks like Scott may have found a Mexican half reale showing a Philip monogram. That is what I would guess from the photos that I received.

Unfortunately he is working the Yucatan, not the Treasure Coast. They had a few storms out in the Gulf not long ago.


The price of gold decreased earlier in the week but regained the $1800 level, closing at $1814 per ounce. Silver has done better than gold for the year, closing at slightly over $40 an ounce.

Many are expecting gold to lose ground next week.

Here is the link if you want to read more about that.

http://www.coinnews.net/2011/09/16/gold-prices-reclaim-1800-silver-surges-to-trim-weekly-loss/


Here is another great lost and found story. A Super Bowl ring was lost in Hawaii about forty years ago and recently returned.

Here is the link.

http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/dish/201109/missing-super-bowl-ring-mystery-solved-after-40-years

Talking about Super Bowl rings. One was lost about twenty years ago off of a boat in the Bahia Mar marina down in Fort Lauderdale. Recovery efforts were unsuccessful at the time.


Here is a good web site that will help you quickly and easily determine the melt value of US silver coins. Just select the type of coin and the number of coins, and out comes the melt value.

A Roosevelt dime is worth about $2.87 in silver content and a Morgan Dollar just over $30 at current silver prices, for example.

Here is the link.

http://www.coinnews.net/2011/09/15/2011-w-uncirculated-american-silver-eagles-launch/


Treasure Coast Beach Forecast and Conditions.

After a lull in the Atlantic, there are now three areas of disturbed weather coming off of Africa. That looks pretty unusual to me. Two have a fairly good chance of developing. Of course it is too early to know what they are going to do.

From Noaa Hurricane Center.

The surf web sites say that we'll have 2.5 or 3 foot seas this weekend and through Tuesday. That's not enough to cause a significant change in conditions and not generally good enough for finding shipwreck cobs, but it could stir up the front beach a little and provide access to a few other things when the seas back off again. Maybe they'll be a few signal finds that will point you to something in the future.


Happy hunting,
TreasureGuide@comcast.net

Wednesday, September 14, 2011

9/14/11 Report - More on the Gold Bar, A First Silver Dollar Find, and a Diamond Ring Returned


Written by TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of treasurebeachesreport.blogspot.com.

Front and Back of the $100,000 Gold Bar To Be Auctioned in the Upcoming Sedwick Coins Auction.

Photo and information on the bar was submitted via email by A. G. of Sedwick Coins.

I showed the front of this bar yesterday and gave you some clues about its identity. One reader sent an email correctly identifying the seal.

I'll give you more about the bar below.

James F. sent in this story telling about how he responded to a request to find a lost ring.

My detecting club sends out emergency e-mails reporting any lost item, usually rings, reported to the club by normal, everyday people who don't know where else to turn for help in finding that lost wedding band or heirloom lost somewhere in the ocean of sand, or just the ocean, period. Once such call came in this last Wednesday, from a frantic husband...his wife, relaxing on a beach chair as the surf splashed past her, seems to have relieved her of her VERY expensive ring. This piece of jewelry was 18kt white-gold encrusted with diamonds encrusting 360 degrees of the ring's circumference...if you ran it along the sand, it would have left something that looked like the tread of a miniature truck tire. Serious piece of bling.
His wife was crying and frantic, as well as anyone would be, who had lost her first wedding ring after being married a little over a year. It had been lost last Saturday, the 3rd, and his e-mail to the club was pretty sad...


(I omitted some of the story here to save space. TreasureGuide)


I sent him an immediate e-mail and told him we may be able to recover it, if he remembered where they had sat. I met him there with my Minelab SE Pro with a 16" coil, and within 45 minutes had recovered his wifes ring. I told him I thought I had something, he came over, I dug up a mound of sand (about 8" deep), pulled out my pinpointer, wiped away clumps of sand with it to reveal his lost ring. He couldn't believe it...a tiny ring had been gone more than a week, both him and his wife thought they would literally NEVER see this important piece of their married life again. He had told me on the side he would not be able to afford another ring for her, and I felt so bad...you cannot imagine seeing someone so resigned to the loss. When he first saw it in the wet sand, he grabbed me and hugged me like a long lost friend...almost busted my detector stem. We walked back up to the beach pavillion, and there was his wife in her bathing suit. He showed the ring to her and SHE started crying, also hugging me (I had the detection gear out of the way this time), which I didn't mind all that much. Long story, short, two very happy people were walking on a cloud, still expressing disbelief that I had found such a tiny thing on such a big beach. These folks were totally alien to the sport of metal detecting, but can now be counted on to be another positive voice in the general public concerning the sport.

This taught me a lesson about the here-and-now of detecting; if anyone is distraught over losing a valuable item, and you have some time to lend a hand, do it! The good will that your assistance will generate for the hobby is worth much much more than the gold value of the ring. Just saying, I'm proud of what we do, cause nobody does it better!


Good thoughts. Thanks James.


John benefited from Irene going to Connecticut. He had some good luck. Here is what he said.

I hunted up here in Ct. after the storm (not a hurricane anymore) hit us. I found my first Silver Dollar in over 40 years of beach hunting, a 1897s. It was washed out of the upper beach that hardly anyone ever does. Also in the same 20 ft. area I found a 57 quarter, 2 buffalo nickels, 44 merc dime, and several wheats. In the water at low tide, I hit a 14K gold buckle ring with small diamond. Lots of modern coins were in the cuts in the beaches. Tide was at high when the storm hit so it came in flooding and churned up the beaches quite a bit.
John


Glad to know someone benefited from Irene. And congratulations on your first silver dollar!


Back to the gold bar.

Minted in Brazil, this gold bar is an example of pseudo-monetary gold that is somewhat comparable to the U.S. pioneer gold issues of the California Gold Rush.

The particular ingot shown above is from the foundry of Serro Frio and is very rare. Even more rare, the original guia (documentation) is available and in remarkable conditoin.

If you want to learn more about this gold bar and the history of similar bars, here is a link to all of the information provided by Sedwick Coins.

http://sz0160.wc.mail.comcast.net/service/home/~/Brazilian%20gold%20bar%20_3_.pdf?auth=co&loc=en_US&id=58060&part=2


Treasure Coast Beach Forecast and Conditions.

Maria is now a tropical storm and is east o the Bahamas and headed towards the North Atlantic. There are no other storms or hurricanes to watch right now.

The wind is from the north/northwest. The seas are around two feet and will not change much, only increasing slightly to about three of four feet on Sunday.

Obviously, that means no significant change in detecting conditions on the Treasure Coast.


Happy hunting,
TreasureGuide@comcast.net

Thursday, July 21, 2011

7/21/11 Report - Storing Finds, St. Lucie Club, Conditions Downgrade




Lazy Sea This Morning Just After Low Tide.

I was looking at some finds the other day and was reminded once again how what you do after the find is important.

I was looking at one small charm that was hard to tell how old it was. One little mark on the back caught my attention. It was too small to read, so I got it in good light and pulled out my jewelers loop. Only then could I see 925 stamped on it.

That, of course, means that is sterling silver, which also means that it is not centuries old. A mark like that can often help narrow down the age of found items. Carefully scan finds for small marks.

Some designs have been used basically the same for centuries, so they can be hard to identify by date, especially when they've been in salt water for a while.

It is good to have a good quality jewelers loop to inspect your finds.

A loop can also help you determine the value of gem stones.

Another recommendation is to avoid storing different types of metals together. If one type of metal is stored touching another, the metals can leach or one can mar the surface of the other, leaving hard to remove marks that can ruin the look.


Pewter Medallion Marred By Being Stored In a Box With Other Metal Items.

This is one example. It survived the beach very nicely, but then was damaged by being stored with other metal items. It looks like it might be very difficult or impossible to get rid of the new damage. Although this isn't an important item, the same thing can happen to more important finds.

You don't have to worry about that much with gold, but silver is especially prone to being discolored or marred by other metals. Definitely don't store salt-water blackened silver with like-new silver.

When it comes to silver items, I'd individually wrap each item to keep each one from touching another.


Kovels Komments says, Vintage watches are fashionable again. Some men in their 30s who gave up watches for cell phones are now wearing watches as jewelry. Watch collectors say they have learned to appreciate "a proper mechanical timepiece." Grandpa's watch is cool, especially if it's an old Rolex. And wooden jewelry is back. Remember those carved costume jewelry pins made for children in the 1950s? Hip-hop artists have started a trend back to wooden jewelry. Wooden bracelets, beads, pendants, and even cufflinks and sunglasses are being made. But old wooden jewelry is still selling for bargain prices.


Bernie C. is interested in starting a detecting club in the St. Lucie area. I guess there was one there at one time. Bernie is willing to take the lead to get this thing started. Let him know if you are interested. His email is twiprod001@att.net.

He has a web site for you to look at too.

www.stlucietreasurehunters.vpweb.com


Don't forget that anytime you want to check out the Jupiter area beaches, you can find the photos at the following web site, that you can also find in my treasure links list in this blog.

http://www.jupiterbeachpics.com/


Treasure Coast Beach Forecast and Conditions.

Cindy is a tropical storm out in the Atlantic, and like Bret, is moving away from us. Neither will affect us.

The wind is from the south again, and the front of the beaches are building again.

I'm putting my beach conditions rating back to a 1 again.

That didn't last long, but there is a lot of summer left.

The next several days will see seas down around one foot, so we are back to the conditions that existed prior to the recent erosion.

I saw several guys out detecting the low tide area this morning.


Happy hunting,
TreasureGuide@comcast.net

Tuesday, July 12, 2011

7/12/11 Report - Two Crude Silver Finds and the Issue of Depth



Two Crude Unmarked Silver Beach Finds.

Both test as silver, and both are unmarked. The cross has the Latin word for Peace, PAX, on the front of it even though I don't think you can see that in the photo. It appears that it once had a loop on it that broke off.

I don't know what the symbol on the ring is. I'm always happy to hear your thoughts on unidentified beach finds like this.



Google Books provides a very good resource. Some books can be read in part or entirely online. One book in Google Books that you might be interested in and that you can scan (partly) is Buried Treasure of the Atlantic Coast by Jameson.

Here is the link to the section on Georgia/Florida.

http://books.google.com/books?id=GOal2tZzqFYC&pg=PA96&dq=treasure+coast+silver&hl=en&ei=UfgaTujyIZTAgQfuy5AD&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CEQQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=treasure%20coast%20silver&f=false


I often talk to people that think their detector is not detecting deep enough. They are concerned about how deep their detector will detect, and want the deepest seeking detector they can afford. They seem to think that if they can detect another foot deeper their finds will increase dramatically. In my opinion, depth is an issue that is highly over-rated when it comes to beach detecting.

Of course you need a detector that will detect targets at some depth. That is what a detector is supposed to do. But your goal isn't to find the deepest targets that you can.

First of all, you have to consider the type of target. A lot of the time I hear people talk about how deep a detector will detect a quarter. That might provide one estimate of a detector's power, but that isn't the most important thing unless your primary target is quarters.

Some detectors are better at detecting small pieces of silver and gold than others. Other detectors are better at detecting other metals such as copper or iron, for example. And others are good at detecting large pieces of metal at depth, but not very good at detecting smaller pieces of shallow precious metals. You would often be better off with a detector that will detect smaller items made of precious metals than detecting large pieces of metal two or three feet deep.

Tesoro detectors, from my experience, seem to be very good at detecting small pieces of precious metals but not so good at detecting clad coins at great depth, especially in wet salt mineralized sand. Which would you be most interested in?

Many people that read this blog want to find silver or gold shipwreck cobs on the beach. Many beach cobs are small, particularly those that wash in from the ocean on certain beaches. The cobs that come from Bon Steel Park, for example, tend to be small half reales.

Half reales can be very small. Some people are surprised when they first see them. Back in the eighties, many people hunting the Treasure Coast beaches were missing almost all of the small denomination cobs, because they were using too much discrimination. I suspect that is still the case.

I remember once showing a couple of guys that showed up on the beach where to look and how to set their detector settings and in less than an hour they found their first cobs (half reale in the sea weed line). I think most experienced detectorists these days know enough to not run around looking for cobs while using too much discrimination. (The conditions were good that day, not like the current beach conditions.)

It is funny to me that it seems so many people are so concerned about depth, but then they run around using too much discrimination. If you want to find the smaller denomination cobs, you shouldn't be using very much discrimination. I prefer not using any.

The guy that made some of my detectors once told me that he had a new modification that would make my detector detect deeper. I told him that I didn't want any deeper. We both laughed. But it was true. I didn't want or need any more depth.

My primary focus is on finding hot spots such as the coin lines or holes that I've talked about in the past. I don't have a lot of interest in covering hundreds of yards of sand for a few scattered targets. The first thing I hunt is the location of any hot spots. When I go out on a beach, that is what I am looking for.

By "hot spots" I mean any good concentration of old coins or items made of precious metals. Hot spots are generally not deep. They are concentrations of items that have been either recently uncovered or recently deposited on the beach. The vast majority of them are not under tons of sand. And the first step is to find the hot spot and clean out the shallow targets before really getting down to cleaning out any of the deeper items that may be under the shallower items.

It is something like hunting wild game. The wise old Indian will stalk game at watering spots or grazing areas where he can get a good shot at an easy target. That is my primary focus - finding concentrations of easy targets. If you can find a hot spot, you can pick up a number of targets in a short period of time.

I don't want to spend fifteen minutes trying to dig a hole to China. There are times to dig deep holes, but that is not the most important thing or the most productive way to spend your time if you want to find old valuable coins or jewelry on a beach. The last three words in that sentence are important, because beach hunting is different. In other locations, the approach would be different.

I've been digging some deep targets lately. It is time consuming. But I only resorted to that because local beach conditions have been so poor, and I wanted to dig some shipwreck spikes and things like that. Even doing that, it is not important to have a real deep seeking detector. Those items are relatively large and can be detected at depth with little difficulty. If they are really deep, you might not want to spend the time digging really big holes on the beach, and when you get down to the water table, you probably won't be able to get them out anyhow - at least not easily. Again, you don't need the deepest seeking detector. Any decent detector will be able to detect those types of targets about as deep as you'll want to dig.

If you are interested in digging deep artifacts on the beaches right now, definitely switch to all-metals or pin-point mode and dig everything. It might help if you take a shovel with you. Be prepared for a lot of hard work and few good finds.

I've said this before, but I've seldom had to dig more than a couple inches for shipwreck cobs. When they are on the beach and in detector range, they are usually shallow. I've eye-balled as many cobs laying on the sand in plain sight than I've dug deeper than two or three inches deep.

If you remember the old stories, cobs were often found laying right on the surface after storms. That confirms what I am telling you. If you are digging deep holes in the sand, my bet is that you won't be finding many cobs. You might be lucky enough to find a ton of gold bars, but I wouldn't count on it.

To sum this all up, detecting depth, in my opinion, is highly over-rated when it comes to hunting shipwreck cobs on a beach. There are other factors to consider that are just as important as depth, and probably more important. Know what you really want to find and the conditions and select your detector based upon those factors - not how deep a detector will detect a clad coin in an air test.

By the way, you probably realized that an air test is not a highy accurate way of judging the depth you will get in the field.

And once again, I highly recommend experimenting in the field with sample targets like those you want to find.

If you want to find cobs, focus on the small ones, and the larger ones will take care of themselves. I've given this advice before, but if you don't have a small half reale to use as a test target, take an old worn silver dime, cut it in quarters, and use one quarter as your test target. Take it to the beach and set your detector to get a good clear signal on the test item. You'll then be pretty much ready to detect half reales and larger denomination reales.

When hunting the dry sand tourist beaches you don't generally need much depth for the vast majority of targets. You should however use a detector that will detect tiny pieces of gold. Too much discrimination will hurt you more than not having the deepest seeking detector.



Treasure Coast Beach Forecast and Conditions.


Beach conditions remain unchanged. More of the same.

The wind is still from the west and the sea running down around one foot.

There is however a little action in the tropics. There is one low pressure wave over Central America and the Yucatan and the one still down by the islands. Neither will likely form into a cyclone though, and it will be a while before either directly affects us.


Happy hunting,
TreasureGuide@comcast.net