Showing posts with label mint errors. Show all posts
Showing posts with label mint errors. Show all posts

Sunday, November 18, 2018

11/18/18 Report - $36,000,000 Marie Antoinette Pendant. Lucky Pennies and Coins. Great Mint Error Coin Database.


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Diamond Peral Pendant Worth $36 Million.


What do you think it is worth?

Well Sotheby's, who you'd think would know a bit about such things, thought this pendant would bring between one and two million dollars at auction.  Boy were they wrong!

The item was described as exceptional and highly important natural pearl and diamond pendant, 18th century.  But there is more.  Set with an oval diamond supporting a diamond bow motif and a slightly baroque drop shaped natural pearl measuring approximately 15.90 x 18.35 x 25.85mm, hook and hinged back fitting, the pearl and diamond bow motif were suspended from Marie Antoinette’s three strand pearl necklace; the single stone oval diamond surmount formed the clasp of that same necklace...


That might add some value!  Something did.

Although bidding started off pretty much as expected, it didn't end as expected.  Someone paid over $36,000,000 dollars for it.  That is something like twenty times the auction estimate.

That, I guess, is what it is worth - for now at least.  It might change the next time it goes up for sale.

So why do I talk about things like this.  Are you going to find something that was owned by Marie Antoinette?  Probably not.  But it is possible that you might someday be lucky enough to find something once destined for Isabella Farnese.  Still, that isn't the primary reason I talk about such things.

The primary reason is that people often ask what something is worth.  It helps to know how to value items, and you can always learn a little about that by watching how things are sold and what price they bring.

So what are the determinants of the price in this case.  I suspect that the diamonds, pearls and workmanship had something to do with it, but I think there was a bigger factor - the provenance of once being owned and worn by Marie Antoinette was a huge factor.   But I'm sure there was even more to it than that.  One person thought for some reason it was worth that much and had the ability to pay for it.  At this point, I don't know why the winning bidder thought it was worth more than anybody else that participated in the auction.  That is something that maybe only they know.

Selling well is largely a matter of getting things in front of the people that most appreciate them, and in the case of very expensive items, also have the money to spend.

I've said this before, but one thing I like about selling items, although I haven't done it much, is getting the item to a home where it will be appreciated.

Here is the link for more about the pendant and other items auctioned from the Bourbon/Parma family.




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I've been talking a good bit about holed coins and lucky pennies and such things.  You've probably heard some variation of "Find a penny, pick it up, and all day long, you'll have good luck."  Some people say "If it is heads up, pick it up, but if it is heads down, leave it on the ground". A heads down penny is supposed to be bad luck, I guess.  It has also been said that a found penny should not be kept, but turned heads up and passed on to a friend or stranger.

In Ireland and parts of northern Europe it was said that pennies belonged to fairies or leprechauns, so when you found a lucky penny, you were to spit on it and throw it into the nearby bushes or foliage to return them to the creatures and receive good luck in return.

You've probably heard of the traditions of placing a coin under the cornerstone of a new building or under the mast of a ship.  I once found a 1909 penny when a house built in 1909 was torn down.  It was in mint condition except for a few scratches.  I think it could have been under the cornerstone of that house.

Here are some other superstitions having to do with pennies.

Carrying a penny for good luck.

Throwing a penny overboard  for safety when traveling by ship.

Keeping a jar of pennies in the kitchen for good luck.

Putting money in a wallet or purse given as a gift.  My grandmother always did that one.

Keeping a coin hidden in a baby's crib.

Putting a received penny in your pocket to attract more.

Coins with holes are especially lucky.

Tossing a penny with the idea that your worries will go with it.

Tossing a penny into a wishing well.

Keeping a penny in your shoe.   (Remember the penny loafers?)


I know that a lot of people will not pick up pennies on the street or when detected.  I will.  I always like to take them home and look for any mint errors or other interesting things I might be able to find on them.  I always check my change too.  Newly received change goes in one pocket so I can look at it when I get home.

I've found a few mint errors that way.  Some are significant enough to be registered on Wexler's coin error database.  Check it out.

http://cuds-on-coins.com/lincoln-cent-spike-heads-1990-1999/

Excellent database of mint error coins.

Pennies can be worth thousands of dollars.

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The surf on the Treasure Coast will be two to four feet today, slacking off for a few days.  There might be a nice increase in a week or so.

Happy hunting,
TreasureGuide@comcast.net

Saturday, October 13, 2018

10/13/18 Report - Large Group of Shipwrecks Found. Whitman Coin Folders. Lamination Coin Errors.


Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of treasurebeachesreport.blogspot.com.
Hurricane Michael Damage.
Remember the people that got hit by Michael.

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I like the Whitman coin folders. There are some for sets, with each of the coin holes labeled. For example, there is one for Jefferson nickels with a hole for each year and each mint.  That is convenient if you are trying to build a complete set.  You can upgrade each example whenever you get a nicer coin for that year and mint.

Whitman also makes unmarked folders for each denomination.  You might use them for silver war nickels or every error and variation you can find.

Whitman Nickel Folder With Unlabeled Holes.
This one just happened to be the one I got out.  It is just a miscellaneous bunch that I put in the folder years ago.  They aren't good enough to be included in my better date/mint sets.  You can see that I added my own labels, and in some cases changed the coins.

I just looked through the coins in that folder and found a couple nickels with mint errors.

1953 Nickel With Lamination Error.


Lamination Error.
The lamination error goes across Jefferson's face towards the D in GOD.

A lamination error is a coin with a fragment of metal missing or peeled off the coin's surface. It is caused by dirt or gas trapped in the strip as it is rolled out to the prescribed thickness before the coin is struck.

I didn't know anything about lamination errors when I originally filled this folder many years ago.  It is surprising how much you learn as time goes by.  I'm often glad that I kept things until I learned more about them.

I found another lamination error in the same folder.

I highly recommend the Whitman coin folders as a way to store your modern coins and get more enjoyment out of them.

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Archaeologists in Greece have discovered at least 58 shipwrecks, many laden with antiquities, in what they say may be the largest concentration of ancient wrecks ever found in the Aegean and possibly the whole of the Mediterranean.

The wrecks lie in the small island archipelago of Fournoi, in the Eastern Aegean, and span a huge period from ancient Greece right through to the 20th century. Most are dated to the Greek, Roman and Byzantine eras.

Although shipwrecks can be seen together in the Aegean, until now such a large number have not been found together...
Here is that link.
https://gcaptain.com/shipwrecks-found-in-greek-waters-tell-tale-of-ancient-trade-routes/

Thanks to Douglas for that link.

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The Atlantic is looking pretty quiet now.  Michael is gone, and Leslie is closer to Europe.  Not much else out there.

We'll have some small surf for a week or so.

Happy hunting,
TreasureGuide@comcast.net

Thursday, July 5, 2018

7/5/18 Report - Francly Speaking About Two 1938 French Coins. Searching For Mint Errors.


Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of treasurebeachesreport.blogspot.com.

2 Franc Coin - 1938
This is an aluminum-bronze coin worth 20 cents to five dollars depending upon condition.

Reverse of Same 1938 2 Franc Coin
I've been going through a lot of foreign coin finds lately.  A good number of older ones are from a cache, and some that are not as old are old beach finds that I just put aside, not knowing much about them.  

A lot of Canadian coins were found in Hollywood Florida over the years, for example.  A lot of those I showed in the magnet demonstration yesterday were from there. 

Here is a photo showing the two 1938 French coins that I'm showing today.  As you can see, the 2-franc coin is much bigger than the 50 centimes coin.  Otherwise they are very similar.

1938 2 Francs Compared to 1938 Fifty Centimes.

Below is the fifty centimes coin.  I should wipe this one off.

1938 2 Centime Coin.
This one is also aluminum-bronze and worth about the same as the 2 francs coin.

Reverse of Same 1938 2 Centime Coin.
Unlike Canadian coins, only about twenty percent of a large group of miscellaneous foreign coins (mostly from the sixties, seventies and eighties) I scanned were magnetic.

A good magnet can be used in a lot of ways.

You can actually test silver with a neodymium magnet.  Silver won't snap to it like ferrous metals, but you can slightly move silver with it.

If you have an old dead computer around, you can find a neodymium magnet by taking the hard drive apart.

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I never seriously searched for coins up until a few weeks ago.  I started looking through bunches of old coins.  I hate the idea of missing a valuable old coin simply because I didn't look or didn't know any better.  What I learned is that like with a lot of things, it takes time and practice to become effective.  It is more complicated and difficult than I expected.

Everybody has heard of double-die coins, and how they can be valuable.  Well, it turns out that there are a lot of kinds of doubling you will see on coins, and most of them are not valuable.  You have to learn to tell the difference.

A lot of what first likes a mint error is actually damage that occurred to the coin after it left the mint.  It can take some detective work to tell if something is a mint error or not.

There are also a lot of different kinds of coin errors, and many of them you will never see unless you know exactly what to look for.  For example, one digit of the date might be a touch smaller on some coins.  If you didn't know exactly what to look for, you would never expect the coin to be different or valuable - it would look like a perfectly normal coin.

I was surprised that in learning about errors I had to learn more about the minting process, and some of that applies to silver and gold cobs despite the fact that they were hand punched.  They still made die, and those die sometimes got cracked or damaged.  You will see some things that are similar on both modern coins and old treasure coins.

There are a heck of a lot of different coins, dates, countries, mints, etc. etc. to know about.  There is a lot to learn, but if you decide to get into it seriously, you might enjoy it, and you might even discover something of value.  It does take time and effort.

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Looks like we're in for more south winds and one to two foot surf.

Happy hunting,
TreasureGuide@comcast.net