Showing posts with label mucking. Show all posts
Showing posts with label mucking. Show all posts

Sunday, February 16, 2020

2/16/20 Report - Mucking Through Heavy Trash With a Metal Detector. Last Hutchinson Island Black Bears.


Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of treasurebeaches report.

Broken Old Salter's Eye Lotion Bottle.

That would be a bottle I'd like to have if it wasn't so badly damaged.

Can anyone provide any information on Salter's Eye Lotion?

If you want a challenge or you want to learn to understand your metal detector a little better, here is a recommendation: visit the banks of the Indian River Lagoon where you can get to the river without passing on private property, find an area where the surface trash covers the ground and try to pick out any good targets that might be hiding between the trash.  That isn't easy.  First of all there isn't a lot of good metal targets down there.  And secondly, the trash is horrendous.  You might find something interesting, and if you don't, you'll still improve your detecting skills.  I don't think I really have to tell you that the exercise will require a ton of patience.

As sad as it is to say, the shallow water and banks on the west side of the river are virtual trash pits.  Before garbage pickup, many residents just dumped their garbage over the hill.  Much of it is still there, appearing and disappearing with the storms, weather and whatever.  You'll see the remains of everything and anything; wrecked cars, model T parts, wrecked boats, tires, cans, bottles and glass, old commodes, pressure tanks, etc. etc. etc.

Trashy Area Along the West Bank of the Indian River.
Some of the residents have tried to clean up the areas in front of their property, but it is a seemingly unending task.  One day it will look good but eventually the trash will show up again.

Recently I took a metal detector down to the edge of the river and gave it a try.  I quickly found out that many of the bottle tops gave a coin tone and a conductivity number to match.

You might want to focus on a particular tone or conductivity number for a while.  After digging enough of those, change it up and focus on another range of targets for a while. 

It won't take long to get to know link signals with target types.  And there is no end to the number of targets that you can quickly sample.

You might find to pick good targets out of the trash.  It isn't easy because of the amount of trash.  The trash can be so dense that you are almost always over more than one target.

It isn't likely that you will find many coins, but there are some to be found.  On my trip, I found a few.  One was a 1982 penny that had lost one third of its weight to corrosion.

It is like reading any beach bur different too.  There are signs that will tell you where coins are more likely, and where they are highly unlikely.

The sand on the west side of the river is about six feet deep.  That is what I was told by a fellow that builds docks.  Like on the ocean beach, there are places where coins will be closer to the surface.  The penny was found in an area where weeds had been growing in past years, and even though they weren't there now there was still a dense patch of organic material where the roots were.  That is the reason the penny did not get buried more deeply, and the organic material caused it to quickly corrode.

It is not likely you'll find many coins and it will be difficult to find quality coins, but that is the challenge.  There is a good chance, however that you will find some older things of interest in the process if you keep your eyes pealed.  The bottle at the top of this post was found when I was mucking with my metal detector through the trash.

When picking through such dense trash, you'll be forced to go slow enough that you'll have a good chance of making a sight find of some sort.


Side Rail of Houseboat That Sank In The River During the 2004 Storms.

There are some old shipwrecks in the river too, as well as more recent ones.  I've mentioned some in the past.

Metal detecting in the river will test your patience.

An occasional fossil can also be found in the river.  In fact, almost anything can be found in the river.

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DJ sent me a link to the story of the last black bear killed on Hutchinson Island.  Interesting local history that you might find interesting and maybe sad.




Thursday, June 19, 2014

6/19/14 Report - Chosen Ring, Mucking, John Morgan Podcasts, Ring Returned, Most Valuable Treasures & More Marine Preserves


Written by the TreasureGuide for he exclusive use of treasurebeachesreport.blogspot.com.

Chosen Ring Found  Yesterday While Mucking

These "Chosen" rings seem to be popular.  I saw one listed on eBay for about $250.

I don't really know if they go with a TV show or what.  Anybody have any background on what "Chosen" means on these rings.

Trash can protect treasure.  I often work trashy areas.  Of course, like everything, there are tricks to mucking.

I've been trying to think of how to explain it.  Basically you use the trash to develop a 3-D model of the layers of sand and distribution of objects in it, then head towards the sweet spot as the evidence points you in the right direction.

I'll try to figure out how to briefly explain that.


It seems there has been a rash of returned rings in the media lately.  Here is one that took longer than most others.  This one was lost sixty years before being returned.  It is the older style of class ring from the 20s and 30s.

Here is that video.

http://xfinity.comcast.net/video/MN-Man-Gets-Ring-Back-60-Years-After-Losing-It/283763267898/Comcast/Today_in_Video/?cid=hero_sf_TIV


Yesterday I showed a picture sent in by John Morgan.  Check out his podcasts, www.letstalkmetaldetectingandtreasurehunting.com.



Here is a brief video of the most valuable stamp in the world along with some of the other most valuable treasures.

http://www.sothebys.com/en/news-video/videos/2014/05/the-worlds-most-famous-stamp.html?cmp=email_N09154_0614_4_AURexample7_event_bucket2



Old and antique jewelry brings good prices these days.  One London dealer said, "It's easier to sell something for 500,000 British pounds (over 800,000 US) that for 5,000."  

The economy has hurt the middle class, but the rich are seeking out fine unique pieces.  In the US things often sell for less than in London.  Kovels Komments suggests investing in fine antique jewelry as they expect prices to increase.

Here is that link.

http://www.kovels.com/news-news-news/antique-jewelry-is-selling-for-very-high-prices.html?utm_source=Listrak&utm_medium=Email&utm_term=Antique+Jewelry+is+Selling+for+Very+High+Prices&utm_campaign=Kovels+Komments%3a+Antique+Jewelry+is+Selling+for+Very+High+Prices


John Kerry wants to set aside at least 10% of the oceans as marine protection reserves.  I'd bet he actually wants to set aside 100% of the ocean and everything else too, and charge access to it all, except for ketchup companies like Heinz, which is where he gets his money.

More marine preserves probably means more shipwrecks being off-limits.  Some of you guys that didn't care about the St. Lucie parks might care about this.

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/feb/25/john-kerry-environmental-protection-marine-reserves-oceans


Ont the Treasure Coast it looks like more of the same for several days.  Little surf and lots of sand.

Happy hunting,
TreasureGuide@comcast.net

Wednesday, June 18, 2014

6/18/14 Report - Salvage Vessel at Cocoa, Mucking, Class Ring Found On Old Shipwreck Returned and Stamp Worth Nearly 10 Million


Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of treasurebeachesreport.blogspot.com.


Salvage Vessel  Working Up At Cocoa
Photo by John Morgan

John Morgan sent me this picture and email message.

Hi Treasure Guide,
At 8:25 AM  6/18/2014 I spotted a treasure salvage boat with blowers down outside on my balcony at 16th south Cocoa Beach.
They are 1/3 mile offshore...


John heard Josh Fisher talking on a podcast about a wreck of the 1715 Fleet that they thought was around Cape Canaveral.


Thanks for the information and report John!  Nice photo too!




Do you know the difference between this blog and some of the others?  This one is all about you.  I'd rather post your finds, reports and information than mine.

I'm not trying to get attention or sell you anything.  Not even trying to make money off of clicks by advertising.  No ads here.  I just pass along information.

The thing that makes me happiest is when the information that I post helps other people and I hear about that.  One person recently sent me an email and said his finds have about doubled since he began reading this blog.  That is the kind of thing I like to hear.

Another reader recently said that as a direct result of one of my tips, he looked where he never would have looked and found two high quality rings.

I do enjoy researching and analyzing and passing along what I learn.  I was a researcher in academia for a lot of years, and I enjoyed it.  I also enjoy analyzing things and learning, as well as sharing what I learn.  That is why I do this blog.

Typical Sandy Treasure Coast Beach This Morning Near Low Tide 

Here is one typical Treasure Coast beach as I found it this morning.

I have pictures of other beaches from this morning, but they all look pretty much the same.  

In the picture above. towards the right you can see slight remains of an old cut (right of the ATV tracks), and all of that sand in front has washed up since.  You can see the last high tide line.

If you are detecting on the Treasure Coast now, during these sandy conditions, your best bet is recent drops. There is a lot of sand.  Even recent drops are sinking or being covered quickly, both in the water and in the wet sand area.

The renourishment projects added a lot of sand to our beaches too.  Much of the renourishment project sand has been dragged into the shallow water, where it extends out quite a few yards.

I did a little detecting in front of a small hotel this morning where the renourishment was.   I ran loose scan pattern to find any concentrations, then I focused on one small area but only came up with coins.  I don't remember getting anything but coins there - no trash at all.

I then moved on and did some mucking at another beach that had been replenished recently and has been eroding. The sand that was brought in has a lot of torn aluminum in it.  I detected in front of a cut there even though I knew I would find tons of aluminum trash.  

By "mucking" I mean detecting a very trashy where I figured there would be a few good targets. 

The area where I was mucking had about ten aluminum targets to every non aluminum targets, at least that is how it seemed, although I did not keep track exactly, yet it took less than a half hour to find a ring.  Come to think of it, there was only one coin found in that mess, and about a half dozen other non-aluminum targets, plus the ring.  

There is a trick to mucking.  Read the pattern of trash to find the areas where other kinds of targets are most likely to be found.    I should have taken some pictures of that area so I could explain the technique better.  Basically, you analyze the pattern of junk, both laterally and depth, and it will point you to where you might find better things.  There is no escaping digging the trash though.  The trash is what will tell you how things are distributed, and therefore, where to go.

Mucking takes patience.   But it will often pay off.

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I show them all the time - rings that are found and returned to the owner.   A 1972 class ring was found by a treasure salvage crew off of Vero and returned to the owner who last saw the ring when it was stolen form his apartment in Miami some 40 years ago.

Here is the link to that story.

http://www.wptv.com/news/region-indian-river-county/vero-beach/tcoast-treasure-hunters-find-class-ring-missing-for-40-years


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One cent stamp sold for $9.5 million.  Here is the link for that story.

http://xfinity.comcast.net/video/Rare-Postage-Stamp-Sells-for-Millions/283452995508/Comcast/Today_in_Video/?cid=hero_sf_TIV


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On the Treasure Coast we'll have about a one-foot surf for several days.  That won't change the sandy conditions we have.

Happy hunting,
TreasureGuide@comcast.net