Showing posts with label profit. Show all posts
Showing posts with label profit. Show all posts

Friday, January 11, 2019

1/11/19 Report - A Few Important Facts About Metal Detecting For Profit. WW II Sunken Plane Graveyard.


Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of treasurebeachesreport.blogspot.com.

Sunken WW II Planes.
Source: LifeDaily.com (See link below) 
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Observers sometimes assume that metal detecting is all about making money, but for most of us there are other reasons we metal detect.  We enjoy the activity, the exercise, the challenge and the history we encounter, but if you want your metal detecting to be profitable, there are some things you need to know.

When I talk about profitable metal detecting, I am talking about motivation and math.  I am excluding all motives and benefits other than the profit motives.  My criteria will then be purely mathematical.  It takes a degree of focus and a level of commitment that turns metal detecting into a job or business.  You might not want to do that, but you will still benefit from the discussion even if I only provide a few of the important but under- appreciated facts.

Here they are.

A.  If you want to maximize profit, the cost side of the equation is just as important as the finds.  Expenses must be paid for by finds.  Travel expenses, such as gas, parking, admission fees, etc. must be taken into account.  So must the cost of equipment and other costs.

B.  The most expensive metal detector is not always the best and must pay for itself.  The cost of such things as batteries and maintenance must also be factored in.

C.  If the profit motive is primary, you will have to give up some of the other pleasures, such as only detecting in pleasant weather or on nice beaches.  You'll have to push yourself to do things that are not easy or fun.  In fact, your most profitable detecting might put you in difficult situations and push you to work harder than you would like.  There was a time, and I've said this before, that my motto was, "If you don't want to do it, do it."  By that I meant working some of the most difficult beaches and conditions.  I wasn't talking about ethics.

D.  A location might produce a lot of low value targets and another location might produce just a few  targets, but of a much higher average value.  Of course the ideal location produces a lot of high value targets.  You will not know exactly what you will find, but over time you can get a good estimate of the likely number of targets and their average value at different locations.  Over time you will base your estimates on your past experiences at each location but will also factor in other reasonable expectations.

E.  So which would you choose, a location that produces a lot of small value targets or a location that produces few targets, but targets of a higher average value?  It all comes down to the math. You should do some calculations.  Take the average expected target value and multiply times the expected number of targets and chart it out.

If you detect a the same location a few times, you will have good data to form your expectations.   Your expectations will become more precise as you gain experience at a location and analyze the data you have accumulated.  Don't forget - the highest value finds will be rare but will dramatically affect your results.  I won't do the math or graph that out now.

F.  Here is an important one.  If you are concerned with profit, you must do a good job of converting finds into cash.  The sales side is just as important as making finds.  You can make a find worth $1,000 but end up selling it for much less.   If you are good at marketing and sales, you can easily double your profit that way.  You must recognize the value of different types of finds and sell them well.

Common mistakes include selling good jewelry to a pawn shop or for scrap or not recognizing the value of antiques or collectibles such as coins.  Learning the value of various types of finds and how to sell them well is an important skill if you want to maximize profit.  It is not just about finds.

If you stink at marketing or don't want to do it, you might have to just accept that fact, but then you'll have to find more to make the same profit.

Most people do not detect primarily for the profit.  That is fine, but you should be clear about your motivations and the trade-offs.  You will not maximize profits unless you go all out to do so.  There are many good reasons for not doing that, but it helps to be clear about your motives and what you want to accomplish rather than having mixed feelings and ending up being frustrated.

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For all of you good looking bachelors of the Treasure Coast, it looks like MacKenzie Bezos, worth a few billion dollars, is going to be available.

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A few years back, Brandi was scuba diving about five miles offshore of the island of Roi-Namur in the Marshall Islands, when she discovered something incredible lying beneath the waves. Something that had been lying in wait for over 70 years…

The ocean floor was festooned with rusted, broken airplanes. It was a veritable “Airplane Graveyard.” But where did they all come from? Had the planes been shot down during World War 2? Were they the remains of a once-mighty fleet, rendered into scrap after a brutal sea battle? The answer to those questions was as surprising as the discovery itself…

Here is the link for the lengthy article.

http://www.lifedaily.com/story/diver-uncovers-70-year-old-underwater-secret-in-the-pacific/

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The surf will reach three to five feet later today and be smaller this weekend.

Happy hunting,
TreasureGuide@comcast.net

Saturday, March 18, 2017

3/18/17 Report - Some Real Gems. Teenager Finds 7.44 Karat Diamond. Atocha Emeralds Auctioned.


Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of treasurebeachesreport.blogspot.com.

877 Karat Emerald Known As La Gloria To Be Auctioned April 25.
Source: CNN link below.

This seems to be the week for gems. Huge gems are in the news, including some from the Atocha.


On April 25, the public will have the opportunity to own some of the most magnificent and valuable emeralds in the world, when they go up for sale at Guernsey's auction house in New York...

One of the highlights of the sale is a collection of cut emeralds from the great Spanish shipwreck Nuestra SeƱora de Atocha, a galleon that sank off the Florida coast in 1622...

Here is the link for more about that.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/16/luxury/guernseys-shipwreck-emeralds-auction/index.html

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Diamonds are in the news too.

An Arkansas teenager hit the jackpot Saturday when he found a 7.44-carat diamond at the Crater of Diamonds State Park in Arkansas.

Many people spend hours searching for diamonds at the park only to walk away empty-handed, but Kalel Langford, 14, had only been at the park with his parents for 30 minutes when he spotted a shiny, dark brown gem, according to a statement.  Kalel took the stone to the park’s Diamond Discovery Center later in the day and learned that the shiny rock was actually one of the largest diamonds ever discovered in the park...

Here is the link for more on that story.


I've written about Crater of Diamonds State Park in Arkansas where anyone can pay a fee and hunt diamonds.  The story about how it was discovered is interesting.  A hog farmer discovered a diamond in the mud.  I've told that story before.

Thanks to Dean for leads on both of the above stories.

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An African church minister who supplements his meagre stipend by scrabbling for minerals in the artisanal mines of Sierra Leone has discovered one of the largest diamonds ever found.

The stone is to be auctioned, the Sierra Leonean government announced yesterday, although its value cannot be determined until its quality is assessed. An 813-carat diamond was sold at closed auction in London last month for £51m...

And here is that link.


I once got an email from a woman saying that her husband was talking about buying a metal detector and quitting his job.  She wanted to know if he could really make a living doing that.  I gave her my answer and she replied saying her husband wasn't going to be happy.

Well, first of all, most people don't metal detect for a living.  Very few do.  And there is a good reason. Most would dismally fail.   It is not something you can do that easily.

I remember years ago seeing people yelling "get a job" at a detectorist that was metal detecting in the water near Miami Beach.  I don't know if they actually thought he had no job and was detecting as a living, but it seemed like they did. Some people (very few) are professionals detectorists.  Some some people are obviously hobbyists, but I guess it might not be so obvious is if you don't know much about it.  The number that are professonals must be something like one percent of one percent of all detectorists.  That is my guess.

In the old days the professionals tried to remain invisible.  (I'm talking about detectorists here, not treasure salvors.)  The pros intentionally flew below the radar.  They didn't want to be seen or known. Today it isn't like that.  At least not entirely.  Some today do whatever they can to publicize and promote themselves.

But back to the point I wanted to make.  You can't just buy a detector and go out and expect to make a living at it.  If you are one of the few that can make a living out of it, you first have to put in a lot of time before you get to that skill level.  And it isn't easy.  You can't just go out and wave a detector around and expect to make any kind of profit.  For one thing, you have to be where there is a lot of things to find, such as South Florida.  You can't squeeze gold out of a beach that has none.  If you don't live near excellent detecting, you have travel time and travel expenses to deal with.

Most hobbyists don't keep track of expenses.  Metal detectors are expensive.  Many cost a thousand dollars or more.  And if you are hitting it hard you have more than one and you've gone through several.

Scoops are expensive too.  Then there are pinpointers, batteries, parking fees, detector repairs, wetsuits, etc. etc.  That is a lot of expense  before you can think about making any kind of profit.  I'm sure that most detectorists don't cover expenses.  Most don't really try to.

Some people that I know have paid thousands for a metal detector just because they enjoy playing with it.  They don't really care if they are making a profit.  They enjoy the activity and what they find is just icing on the cake.

Serious metal detecting can also be very strenuous.  I could not today do what I used to do.  There were times when I would walk miles and worked in very rough conditions.  There were times that it was very dangerous.  I wouldn't do some of that today.

I liked to test myself and see what I could do.  It wasn't a profit motive that drove me.  I had some good jobs and a good bit of spare time. I didn't have to find anything to pay the bills.  I did a lot of business travel so I took my metal detector and got to detect a lot of different locations.

I took a few months off between jobs once when I proved to myself that I could make a living out of detecting beaches and shallow water.  I wanted to find out if I could.  That was decades ago.

To repeat my main point - you can't just buy a detector and go out and leisurely make a living out of it.  Don't bet the bank on it without first giving it a try and really finding out what it will take to be successful.  For me now, it is a very enjoyable educational activity that provides a multitude of benefits.  It is a good way to connect with the past and learn a little more about yourself.

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We have a small surf and small tides on the Treasure Coast now.  If you are a shallow water hunter, it is probably a good time.

The surf is supposed to increase next week.

Happy hunting,
TreasureGuide@comcast.net



Sunday, December 21, 2014

12/21/14 Report - A First Gold Ring Find For One Detectorist. Blog Poll Results Summary.


Written by the treasureguide for the exclusive use of treasurebeachesreport.BlogSpot.com.

First Gold Ring Found By Dan B.
Photo by Dan B.


Concerning this Masonic gold ring, here is what Dan B. said.  As soon as I did my tests and started pulling tabs out of the ground, I found my first gold ring. Masonic at that! Funny thing was, the back is separated like a kids you ring, due to a previous repair. So I was thrilled to feel some weight.

Did you notice that he said he was digging tabs?

That is a unique ring for a Mason's ring - not one of the standard off-the-shelf varieties.

Great find Dan!  Congratulations on your first!

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The most recent blog poll has concluded and the results are in.  Nearly half of the respondents (47%) indicated that the primary reason they detect is simply because it is fun.  They enjoy it.  What more can you say?  I won't try to break it down to all of the elements that make it fun, but you never know what you might find.  There is always the element of possible surprise and discovery.  And it is nice just being out there on the beach or wherever.

Nearly as many (42%) indicated that uncovering or touching a piece of the past is their biggest reason for detecting.  I suspect that that number is so high because this blog is very much about the Treasure Coast where we have a lot of interesting history and that is what a lot of people shoot for here. 

The third biggest reason selected by this blog's readers is financial.  It was the third highest response but still only 5% selected improving their financial situation as the "biggest" reason for detecting.  Again, that number would probably be higher if the focus of this blog was not the Treasure Coast. 

Something valuable can always pop up and some people make that their primary objective and become quite good at it.  Beach detecting on the Treasure Coast is not the easiest place to be successful if you want to make a living from metal detecting even though it is one of the better places if you have a salvage lease, but it is still not easy. 

There was a time when I hunted to maximize financial gain.  I lived down South then and kept track of how I was doing.  I was between jobs for six months one time and during that time proved to myself that I could make a living at detecting if I had to.  It is not easy, and for me trying to maximize the dollar value took a lot of the fun out of detecting.  I like detecting more for fun rather than doing it as a profession, but if you need or want to and are willing to work really hard, it is possible if you are good at it.  Now I do it more as a hobby and have the freedom to do it at leisure.  I don't have to go for the maximum value in finds and can hunt the things and way that I like, even if it isn't the most profitable. 

The next most frequently selected response (selected by 2% of the sample)  was "intellectual curiosity."  Some people like to figure things out, solve problems and learn.  Of course that can be coupled with some of the other objectives, but it is the primary motivation for some.

Both "social enjoyment" and "helping others" was each selected by one person as the biggest reason they like detecting.  I'd bet that the person who selected "helping others" has enjoyed returning some nice finds to those that lost them.

Well, maybe you found it hard to select one answer out of all the alternatives, but over a hundred people managed to do so.   Here is what Robert H. said is his biggest motivation.  The next best or rare find. I'm really driven to find Spanish treasure. Big catches would be amazing also. So I guess there's lots to it and hard to just name one thing.

I'm sure a lot of us are out there hoping for that rare or big find and never know when it might happen.  I'm sure the suspense of it all is something that adds a lot to the hobby for all of us.  You never know what exciting thing might pop up or when it might happen.  Maybe it will be today or tomorrow, but if you keep at it long enough I'm sure you'll hit something that surprises and excites you.

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I hurt my back yesterday morning trying to recover a big heavy item.  I could barely move at all yesterday but am quickly getting better.  I wanted to remind you to be careful.  Various kinds of injuries can occur while detecting.  I've had a variety myself over the years.

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On the Treasure Coast we're not expecting around a two-foot surf for a few days yet.  We are finally getting some negative tides though.

Happy hunting,
TreasureGuide@comcast.net