Showing posts with label imitation cob. Show all posts
Showing posts with label imitation cob. Show all posts

Wednesday, October 9, 2019

10/9/19 Report - Mystery of the Strange Looking Coin. Sedwick Auction. Observations on Several of the Metal Detectors I've Used.


Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of treasurebeachesreport.blogspot.com.

Interesting Lot in the Current Sedwick Auction Catalog.
Take a look at the above item.  What do you think it is?  Looks strange, doesn't it?

I was looking through the current Sedwick auction catalog and noticed the item shown above.  It is referred to as an "imitation cob."   Below is the lot description.

Caracas, Venezuela, 2 reales "imitation cob," date as 142 date (early 1800s), struck over a Spanish bust 2R (milled edge), rare, NGC XF 40. ,KM-C13.1. Well-centered pillars, off-center cross (with often off-the-flan M visible to right), faint toning around details, but most important aspect is that the edge shows traces of the rectangle-circle milling from a bust 2R (first we have seen). NGC #4841431-006.

So it looks like somebody for some reason turned a milled Spanish 2 reale into a fake cob, and didn't do a very good job of it.  The elements on the coin are very crude.  Was it made to fool people?  Maybe it was just somebody fooling around.  The date doesn't make sense at all.  There is a story behind that, but I can only wonder what it is.

Here is the link to the imitation cob.  


There is another imitation cob in the catalog that is very much like the one shown above.

Here is the link to the Sedwick auction site.  

https://auction.sedwickcoins.com/auctionlist.aspx

You need to register to bid.

Among the more interesting pieces, in my opinion, were the gold finger bars.  The finger bars had some of the highest auction estimates of the entire auction.  They were in the third session.   Look around lot 80 or 81.

I really think there will be a lot of reales that don't sell.    There is something for everybody though.

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I wanted to rank the metal detectors that I've owned and used over the years.  I found out it wasn't easy to do that.  There are a lot of factors.

This isn't an objective ranking or comparison.

My favorites though are the Noga and MacDonald modified Nautilus detectors.  They were excellent at finding gold on the beaches and in the water.  That is what they were made for.  They nulled on iron, which I liked.   If I'd been hunting relics instead of gold at the time, it would have been a different story.  But they worked very well for what I was doing at the time, and back then I was doing it a lot and had a lot of success with it.  One story that I recall and that illustrates how those detectors worked, was when I detected a small gold bead very near the access at Turtle Trail.  I could easily detect the bead, but I could find it.  I put a handful of sand containing the bead on the coil and still couldn't see the bead.  I moved the sand around and the detector gave a signal.  The sand was course and a color that matched closely to that of the bead, but I eventually found the bead.

Herb claimed his detectors were better than the Noga ones, but I'm not sure that was true.

I know some of the coils for those detectors were hotter than others.

They were very easy to set up and use because they were made for one type of hunting and didn't require or allow much adjustment.

The reason it is so difficult to rank the detectors, is that most of them have things that I like and find very effective, but also negatives.

I'd tend to rank the Garrett GTX second among those I've owned, but it is very heavy, difficult to learn to use well, and loves iron.  Those sound might sound like serious problems, but when you learn to use it and if you aren't bothered much by trash, it is a powerful detector.  I have confidence that I won't miss much of anything with that detector.

Of course the best detector for you always depends upon what you want to do with it, and your style and even your personality.  There are some people who would never ever use the GTX.

In the middle of the pack are many others.  High in the middle of the pack I'd put the other Minelab detectors that I've owned, including the Excalibur and Sovereign.  

I used the Excalibur for several years.  It worked well, but I used it differently than most people.  I always used the pinpoint rather than the discrimination mode.  If I'd been able to get either the Noga or MacDonald detectors at that point, I would have been using them.

I'd rank the Fisher 1280 right up there with the Excalibur.   I used the 1280 a lot and found a lot with it.  It was a good detector and very reliable.  I eventually sold it for about as much as I bought it for.  Long before I sold it, I found enough coins to more than pay for it, not counting any jewelry.  I was keeping good records at the time and knew exactly when my coin finds went over the purchase price, which, if I correctly recall, was about $640.

The 1280 was also the detector that found my first silver and gold rings.  One of the things I learned while using that detector is the danger of using too much discrimination.  Overall, it was one of my favorites.

Maybe I rank it higher because it was the detector that I learned a lot from and it found me a lot in my early days of metal detecting.

I'd rank the Royal Sabre after that.  For such an old detector, it has a lot of nice features, but it I'd use it in dry sand or dry land only.

Then maybe the Stringray.   I had trouble with the Tesoro Stingray from the beginning.  I sent it back about three times and it was returned with the same problem.  They wanted to blame it on underwater cables or something in the area, so I told them to send me another one to try in place of the original one to see if it was the location or the detector's fault.   The replacement detector worked fine.  The original Stingray had a grounding problem and the replacement was hardwired.  

When I eventually sent the replacement in for repairs years later, they said it wasn't under warranty because it had been modified.  That is one way for them to get out of their Lifetime Warranty, but they should have had records showing it was the detector as I received it from them. 

When it worked, it was not the deepest seeking detector, but was good at detecting small gold.  It was never anything other than a back-up detector for me.

After that I can't say much good about the other metal detectors.  I probably didn't know enough about the White's CoinMaster to rank it fairly.  The same might also be the case for the Garrett pulse detector.  So I won't say much negative about them.  I know the CoinMaster didn't get a fair chance.  I just didn't know much about metal detectors or metal detecting when I had that one.

I know there metal detectors out there that might be better.  I'm just reporting my observations and feelings on some that I've owned and used.  The ranking is scientific and it isn't objective, but some of you might find my observations somewhat useful anyhow.

I didn't include anything about the Equinox today.  I plan on doing more precise testing on it.  So far I like it a lot.  It seems like an effective detector that could be useful in many situations.  Right now I'd rank it above the Excalibur and in some ways above the GTX.  I don't want to say much more about it yet, but it looks like I will be using it a lot in the future.

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The surf is going to be about 3 - 4 feet for a couple days.  I'm not expecting much change to the beaches for a while.

Happy hunting,
TreasureGuide@comcast.net























Minelab Equinox. 
I'm just leaning the Equinox, but it appears to be an easy to use and adequate metal detector for a variety of situations.   I expected the visual displays to be more useful, so that was a bit of a disappointment.  You can avoid trash, but in the process can miss a lot of good targets.

Sunday, April 14, 2019

4/14/19 Report - Old "Imitation" Cob. Treasure In The Sewer. Artifact Collection. Coil Test Report.


Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of treasurebeachesreport.blogspot.com.


Imitation Cob
Source: Current Sedwick Auction Listings.

There are some very interesting lots in the current Sedwick auction.  Lot 912 is this "imitation cob."  It looks very much like a 1752 2-reale, although it is said that it was struck in the 1820s.  I don't  know how they know when it was struck.  

Was it meant to be used as money or sold as a collectible? I have no idea.  It says it was "struck."  There are really a lot of questions about this one.   It would be very difficult to figure that all out if you dug it up. The lot description doesn't tell what metal it is made of either.

It has a bid of $400 already.

Here is the lot description.

Tucuman, Argentina, "imitation cob" 2 reales, date "752" (struck 1820-24), rare. 5.83 grams. Bold full date above waves, good full cross, AVF with coppery sediment around details.

And here is the link.

https://auction.sedwickcoins.com/Tucuman-Argentina-imitation-cob-2-reales-date-752-struck-1820-24-rare_i33012225

There is at least one other "imitation cob" listed in the auction.

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Crews went digging through Annapolis sewer lines — and found pottery dating back thousands of years...

Here is that link.

https://www.capitalgazette.com/news/annapolis/ac-cn-green-street-dig-20190412-story.html

Turn over enough ground and you are going to find something interesting.

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U.S. returns 2 pre-Hispanic artifacts to Mexico...

The artifacts were among thousands ranging from arrowheads to shrunken heads that U.S. federal agents removed in a 2014 raid at an Indiana farm. The farm’s owner, Don Miller, amassed the 42,000-artifact collection over several decades. He died in 2015 at age...

Here is that link.

https://yucatanexpatlife.com/u-s-returns-2-pre-hispanic-artifacts-to-mexico/

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Here is a test report from Sebastian Steve.

... I just reluctantly bought a 7" Concentric for my Nokta Anfibio Multi (3 frequencies 5,14, 20 kHz.  Already owning the 9" Concentric, I pretty much thought later on that this purchase was a waste of money.  Not at all the same as the 9"  Moral of the story:  "Do not judge a coil by just the number of inches in diameter, far more changes come into effect."   

I was digging very small non-ferrous items in my yard today with the 7" Concentric.  Areas that have been passed over literally 30-40 times already.  But change up the coil or machine modes, and there is ALWAYS SOMETHING MORE TO BE FOUND...ALWAYS...an odd tapered copper/brass bullet, a small round magnet in a conglomerate the size of an acorn, a half of a bronze screw.  All very tiny items, but monster targets due to this coil.  And again goes to show...there is ALWAYS MORE TARGETS TO BE FOUND...NO MATTER THE BEACH (ESPECIALLY THE BEACH) Your own back yard, Park, old home sites, etc., just by changing modes, tuning levels, coils, direction of approach to the field, etc.

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The tides are moderate. The surf is about two or three feet, but will be decreasing for a couple of days. Low tide will be around noon.

Happy hunting,
TreasureGuide@comcast.net