5/21/19 Report - Buried Treasure, Pirate and Otherwise. Bernard Romans and Bleach Yard. Lost Payroll.

Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of treasurebeachesreport.blogspot.com.

Source: Trial of the Twelve Spanish Pirates of the Schooner Panda, a Guinea Slaver (link below).

Yes Virginia, pirates did bury coins on the beach - at least that is what the book shows.  The book I'm talking about is Trial of the Twelve Spanish Pirates of the Schooner Panda, published by Lemuel Gulliver in Boston in 1834. You can read a free preview online by using the following link.

https://books.google.com/books?id=IQQWAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false

In case you didn't recognize the "Yes Virginia" part, in 1897 a young girl wrote a letter to a newspaper asking if there is a Santa Clause, and that led to a very famous editorial response that included the much repeated, "Yes Virginia, there is a Santa Claus."

You will find the testimony describing the burying of treasure as illustrated above on page 16 of the ebook.  Testimony concerning distribution of the treasure along with other interesting events is also included. It is not easy to follow the testimony, but if you manage, I think you'll find it entertaining.

Here is a link if you want to read a very brief summary of the criminal acts leading to the trial of Don Pedro Gilbert and the other pirates of the Panda. The robbery and destruction of the Brig Mexican occurred off Stuart, Florida.  The web site presents a variety of additional information on pirates.

http://self.gutenberg.org/articles/eng/Pedro_Gilbert?View=embedded's,%20newfoundland%20and%20labrador

If Lemuel Gulliver rings a bell, it is also the name of the fictional character and narrator in Gulliver's Travels, which was written about a century earlier.  For a minute it made me wonder if the author's name on the pirate's trial book might be a pseudonym, but the same Lemuel also published a book on another trial that took place in Boston in 1834 as well as a number of other non-fiction titles, some being almanacs.

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Yesterday I referred to a Frank Hudson book entitled Lost Treasure's of Florida's East Coast and mentioned Hudson's poor reputation for accuracy.  I happened to find that book  (which turned out to be surprisingly easy) and inside found the following map of what is labeled as the St. Lucie Inlet area.  After opening the book and briefly scanning it, I was less than impressed by the contents.  Nonetheless, here is the map of what is presented as the St. Lucie Inlet, the same general area that I discussed yesterday.

Illustration Found in Frank Hudson's book,

Lost Treasures of Florida's East Coast.

I'm really not confident of much of anything shown on the map, but would not find it surprising if treasures were buried around the St. Lucie Inlet (which was located at a different locations at different times) or any other Florida East Coast inlet, for that matter.

Treasures 1 through 5 are described as (1) gold bars, (2) iron bound chest, (3) buried cannons, (4) iron bound chest, and (5) iron bound chest.

Number 6 is the most interesting as a possible lead.  Hudson says, in 1834 an army paymaster was moving $8000 in a dugout canoe up the river when it was lost in the river.  Hudson additionally wrote that if you send him a stamped envelope seeking additional details, his source, who did not want to named in the book, would provide additional details.

While I doubt the accuracy of much in that book, it could nevertheless lead to some real facts if anyone is moved to do some research.  I often start looking into one thing and find something else that was totally unexpected.

The Hudson book on buried treasures of the Florida East Coast was published in 1983.  

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Yesterday I also mentioned the "Bleach Yards" down by Gilbert's Bar and couldn't remember the map where I originally saw it.  Ron J. came to the rescue and pointed to my 9/6/15 report that discusses  Bernard Romans and provides a link to the Romans book, which contains the map.  Below is the link to that post.

https://treasurebeachesreport.blogspot.com/2015/09/9615-report-bernard-romans-and-1715.html

You might enjoy looking at both the post and book.

Thanks Ron!

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I have a lot more to talk about, but that is about it for today.

The surf is still one to two feet but Thursday will start increasing, reaching three to four feet on Friday.

We are still getting some nice low tides.

Happy hunting,
TreasureGuide@comcast.net

3/23/19 Report - Detectorists Still Hitting T.C. Frank Fish Mystery. Bigger Yet Surf Coming? Kellyco Closeout Sale Link.

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Detectorist Favored by The TreasureGuide Cam at Frederick Douglass Beach Near Low Tide Friday.

I got to take a look at a couple beaches Friday afternoon.  There were five or six detectorists at Frederick Douglass Beach.  At least two or three of them were novice snow birds.

The beach there, and the other beaches nearby, had deteriorated since earlier this week.

Despite all the detectorists, I observed no digging.

John Brooks Beach Friday Afternoon.

View From John Brooks Beach Near Low Tide Friday Afternoon.

Fort Pierce South Jetty Beach Friday Afternoon.

Jupiter Inlet Beach

Photo submitted by Joe D.

Joe sent me this photo and pointed out the pipes.  Looks like they are getting ready to dump more sand on the beach there again.

Thanks Joe.

There are a lot of beaches that are a lot bigger than they were back when I was hunting them many years ago.  Jupiter beach was a lot of fun back then before they kept dumping sand on it.

I was looking at the beach up by the condos north of John Brooks today.  It is at least a hundred yards farther out to the east than it was at one time.  There is just too much sand south of the Fort Pierce inlet.  It seems like they are always renourishing the beach there, then the sand works its way south.

Oh, I just remembered I was going to mention that at Seagrape a couple days ago, I did see an older layer of sand down a few inches when I dug a hole.  The older sand was about a half foot deep.  I forgot to mention that then.

I got a couple older items out of the older sand.  One of those is shown below.

Encrusted Object Yet To Be Liberated.

I've got some very similar ones in years past.  A large bullet was in one, but I don't think that is what this one contains.  Maybe a broken piece of spike.

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Dan B. sent in a link to a story on Frank Fish after I mentioned the legendary mid-century treasure hunter a couple days ago.  Here is an excerpt from that article.

Frank Fish was a highly successful at finding treasure and authored a cute little yellow guidebook called “Buried Treasures and Lost Mines.” His friends wrote numerous articles about him and catapulted his book of doodles and maps to temporary fame. It stands to reason his thrust into the spotlight generated some envious folks and enemies, especially when Fish claimed to have one of two copies of the legendary Peralta Map...

How Frank was killed is a mystery.  It is the kind of story that would make a great movie. 

Here is the link Dan sent if you want to read more about the treasure hunter Frank Fish.

https://www.ghoulifornia.com/home/2017/7/27/the-curious-death-of-frank-fish

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The surf has decreased.  We'll have big tides, but the surf will be smaller for a few days.  MagicSeaWeed is predicting a six to nine foot surf after that though.

Source: MagicSeaWeed.com

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Just added:  Warren D. sent me the link to the Kellyco closeout sale on Craigs List.

Includes antiques, collectibles, books, bottles and much more.

https://orlando.craigslist.org/atq/d/casselberry-closed-our-doors-final-days/6829540152.html

Thanks Warren!



I was just received an email from Pavo saying that the closeout sale was in February and ended on March 2.  

That is why I post my sources when I get something second hand (including the media) as well as to give credit where it is due.  I don't think I really have to tell you this, but you should always verify what you read when it might have significant personal consequences.  

I do see that the notice was posted 24 days ago.  

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Happy hunting,
TreasureGuide@comcast.net

10/11/18 Report - Florida Panhandle Area Shipwreck Survey Report. Mission Nombre de Dios. Columbus' Map. FBI Hunts Treasure?

Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of treasuebeachesreport.blogspot.com.

As you know by now, the portions of the Florida Panhandle got hit hard by Hurricane Michael.  I have not doubt that some old things will be uncovered up around Alligator Point and Dog Island, where nice old Spanish coins have been found before.

If you want to become a little more familiar with the shipwrecks of the area, here is a link to a lengthy and  detailed archaeological report.

You will find a lot of interesting information in that report.

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In the 1950s, Father Charles Spellman, a priest and archaeologist in St. Augustine, made a historic discovery at the Mission Nombre de Dios.

Spellman uncovered the remnants of what is thought to be the first stone building and shrine dedicated to Our Lady of La Leche, a building believed to have been constructed in 1677. He discovered artifacts and made a map of the site, but he never shared his discovery with the archaeological community...

Archaeologists have rediscovered the site and will be trying to learn more about it.  Here is the link.

http://www.staugustine.com/news/20181009/mysterious-17th-century-building-being-uncovered-at-mission

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Dean R. and SuperRick sent links to this story.

The father-son duo spent years combing this bit of Pennyslvania wilderness with high-end metal detectors, drills and other tools to prospect for a fabled cache of Civil War gold. They felt certain they'd discovered the hiding place of the long-lost booty, leading the FBI to the mountainous, heavily wooded area last March.

Now, at the end of the court-sanctioned excavation, the FBI escorted the treasure hunters to the snow-covered site and asked them what they saw. They gazed at the pit. Not so much as a glimmer of gold dust, let alone the tons of precious metal they said an FBI contractor's instruments had detected.

"We were embarrassed," Dennis Parada told The Associated Press in his first interview since the well-publicized dig last winter. "They walk us in, and they make us look like dummies. Like we messed up."

Since that day, however, neighbors' accounts of late-night excavation and FBI convoys have fueled suspicions that the agency isn't telling the whole truth. The Paradas are challenging the FBI's account of the dig, insisting that something had to have been buried in the woods near Dents Run, about 135 miles (220 kilometers) northeast of Pittsburgh..

Here is the link.


https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/09/treasure-hunters-challenge-the-fbi-over-a-dig-for-legendary-gold.html

A lot of questions to consider in this one.

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Here is an article about the map Columbus might have used.


https://www.nationalgeographic.com/culture-exploration/2018/10/columbus-map-discovery-secrets-new-world/

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Well, Michael has left Florida but continues to cause problems.

Source: nhc.noaa.gov

On the Treasure Coast the surf is down around two feet now, but the tides are still high.

Remember those in the Panhandle.
TreasureGuide@comcast.net

10/25/17 Report - Mystery Coin(?) Find for ID. Very Early Astrolabe Found. Bernard Romans Resources.

Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of treasurebeachesreport.blogspot.com.

Find by Steven B.

Other Side of Same Find by Steven B.

Steven B. found this mystery object. Can you help identify it for him?  Let me know if you have any thoughts on its identity.

Here is what Steven said about the find.

I found this last Sunday at one of the 1715 sites. I cannot seem to match the patterns barely visible. The obverse shows a star or fort type image, the rear a shield with possibly two rows of stars along each side the shield. 

Same size as a quarter, just a 1/16 less. Reads 72 on my White's Coinmaster GT. Bright spot was a small speck of shell attached. Bright shiny silver color underneath when shell chipped off. Weighs 1.3 grams. Any ideas???

Notice how the color looks very different in the two photos.  That is one thing that makes it more difficult to identify items from photos.

Please send me any thoughts on what it might be.
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One of the Earliest Known and Recently Discovered Astrolabe.
Source: BBC.com  (See link below)

...It is believed to date from between 1495 and 1500.

The item was recovered from a Portuguese explorer which sank during a storm in the Indian Ocean in 1503.

The boat was called the Esmeralda and was part of a fleet led by Portuguese explorer Vasco da Gama, the first person to sail directly from Europe to India....

Astrolabes generally date between 1500 and 1700.  This one appears to be one of the earliest.

Here is the link for more about that.

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-41724022

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Darrel S. sent me the following message and photo.

Was in Cedar Key recently and visited the Whitman Museum. I have not been in that museum since childhood, although I have been to Cedar Key several times this year.

There was a facsimile copy of the original book that was written when he charged La Florida during British occupation.

There is knowledge of his map, but rarely do you see or hear about his diary or book. One of the best sources of the 1715 wrecks, sites, and bearings is briefly mentioned. He only wrote a brief description on the map, but was enough for Lip to make his discovery of the 1715 Fleet.

The image of the map I have sent to you before. The multiple sections. The original was close to 6 x 8 feet and was published by Paul Revere.

Thanks Darrel.

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On the Treasure Coast we have a small surf.  A nice cool front moved in and the wind was from the west this morning.

Happy hunting,

TreasureGuide@comcast.net

4/27/17 Report - More On Cooper's Treasure Show. Salvage Lease Process In The Bahamas. Blog Provided Touch of Home to Deployed Detectorist.

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Sometimes I wonder why I do this blog. But then I get an answer.  That happened just yesterday.

I got an email from Dustin P. who mentioned reading this blog.  He said, I started following your blog while I was deployed in the middle east last year May 2015 - June 2016... It was something that I looked forward to reading every day while I was deployed and made me feel a sense of comfort from home. 

Thanks Dustin!  I never imagined that my blog would provide that type of connection for someone deployed overseas.  Thanks for your service and your kind words.

Dustin started detecting a few years ago around Belle Chase, which had a military base since 1742.  He did his research and made some nice finds.  Now he is stationed at the Canaveral Naval Air Station and is using a Fisher F2 on the beaches around there.  Besides some of his older finds, he occasionally finds rocket parts, which he turns over to the base historian.

I received some emails concerning the Cooper's Treasure TV show.  Maybe you read my previous comments on the show.  I caught part of the second episode last night.

The readers of this blog are very informed people and I often get some great information.  I got an email from James F. who had some contact with the producers of the show back when it was being formed.  Here is what Steve told me.

A year or two ago, I got a bunch of e-mails from the producer of this series, asking about gamma ray spectrometers, knowing I had done some classified stuff for Lockheed Space Operations Corporation (LSOC); I had done some spacecraft electronics work. He asked me how far a spectrometer could sense a change in gamma radiation from Gordo's spacecraft and the answer was somewhere within 6 to 30 feet or so...anyway...not very far, given the technology of the day. He didn't seem to like that answer very much and asked me a few more questions, to which he didn't like the answers very much either. The classified communication transcripts and NASA data are no longer SECRET or even CONFIDENTIAL anymore. There is nothing remotely mentioned in any of these documents (I looked) or even the thinnest theory to support the pretext of this "show" Your feelings are correct...the whole thing is BS.

Thanks James.  All of the emails I've received concerning the show are from people who have serious reservations about it.

After viewing the short segment of the show that I saw Wednesday night, I did a little google search on Roger Miklos (who had the map that Darrell Miklos wanted), who appeared on the Merv Griffin show in the 70s along with Gordon Cooper.

You can find that Merv Griffin show online easy enough.

One thing I found was the following link to an article talking about Roger attempting to get a salvage lease for a project in the Bahamas a few years ago and complaining that a multi-million dollar contribution was be required.  That article was more interesting to me than the TV show.  Here is the first three paragraphs.

The Antiquities, Monuments and Museums Corporation (AMMC) chairman yesterday denied that underwater salvage/exploration licence approvals were being tied to multi-million dollar donations to preserve historic Bahamian sites.

Courtney Strachan’s denial came despite Tribune Business possessing a January 22, 2013, letter to one salvage licence applicant, in which he promised to “personally pursue” Prime Minister Perry Christie for an approval if the latter was able to secure a $22 million donation to the Historic Bahamas Foundation.

In the letter, shown here on Page 1B, Mr Strachan tells Key West-based applicant, Roger Miklos: “Further to our meeting and discussion (January 22, 2013), you are prepared to show good faith by securing a commitment for a donation of $22million to the Historic Bahamas Foundation.”

Here is the link if you want to read the rest of the article.

http://www.tribune242.com/news/2014/jun/19/22m-donation-tie-to-salvage-licence-denied/

The article seems like it might provide some insight into how things are done in the Bahamas.

On the TV show last night, Darrell visited the Houston Space Center, which reminded me of the time many years ago I sent my parents to Space Academy at Huntsville.  It was really a big hit with my dad, who is now deceased.  Probably the best thing I ever did for him.  My mom still talks about meeting John Glenn there.  Unfortunately they didn't come back with a treasure map or file on UFOs.

Back to the Cooper's Treasure show.  At the end of episode 2 when Darrell, who appears to live in the Melbourne, Florida area, jumped off his boat  and right onto a completely visible steel wreck and swam around holding a Vibra-tector in his hand like an over-grown lolly pop and claimed that the wreck validated the chart.  Anyone could draw an arrow on a chart and go out and jump on a wreck.

I probably spent too much time talking about this show.  It does have a lot of Florida connections and touches on things that interest all of us.  I don't know what the general population thinks of the show, but I received several emails about the show.  So far, Darrell Miklos is coming off very much like what he called his father - "a flim-flam man."

We are all interested in treasure hunting, but the last thing we want to see is a hoax that reflects poorly on the hobby and the industry of treasure hunting.

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The surf is small but we are getting some good negative low tides on the Treasure Coast.  That could open up a few good opportunities.

Happy hunting,
TreasureGuide@comcast.net

10/26/14 Report - Officers Great Seal Hat Badge Dug. 300 Silver Dollar Cache. $50,000 Robert E. Lee Map. Nazi U-Boat Wreckage.

Written by the Treasureguide for the exclusive use of treasurebeachesreport.BlogSpot.com.



Example WW II Officers Cap With Badge
Sent by Christopher P.

Yesterday I showed a metal Great Seal of the United States.  I didn't know what it was at first.  After the item was cleaned I could see where two pins would have been.  That was totally covered by a encrustation before. 

I am now sure it is a officer's cap pin of the WW II era.

Thanks for the picture Christopher!




Other WW II items have come from that same area of the beach in the past.  Most of that, though, was when the beach was eroded way back - maybe a hundred yards from where it is now. 

I suspect this one was dredged up and dumped with the renourishment sand.  That happens occasionally.  It can be very helpful when you can figure out where things are coming from.

This one was found where WW II training took place, but I still suspect that it actually came from where the dredged sand was picked up.

Where Pin Was Attached To Badge.

Here is the back of the badge that was found yesterday after the encrustation was cleaned off. 

There were two pins attached - one behind each wing.

This photo shows where one pin was attached (red circle).






A cache of 300 1887 mint-condition silver dollars were found when plummers were digging a ditch.  That happened back a few years but still the story is worth looking at.   Good read.

http://www.reporternews.com/news/coin-cache-found-in-amarillo-backyard

You never know what you might find if you keep digging.



A map actually used by Robert E. Lee has a value of between 50 to 100 thousand dollars.

http://www.aol.com/article/2014/10/21/antiques-roadshow-robert-e-lee-map-photo-worth-upwards-of/20981684/


More on WW II.   The wreckage of a Nazi U-boat was found off of North Carolina.

http://xfinity.comcast.net/video/WWII-Nazi-U-Boat-Wreckage-Found/346833475829/Comcast/TopVideos/?cid=sf_vidtray


On the Treasure Coast it looks like we're going to have nothing much more than a two foot surf for about a week.  Nonetheless, as I've been showing, we have been getting some decent sand movement - more than I would expect from such a small surf.  The wind was from the North, which at least partially accounts for it.

As I left the beach yesterday, the tide was coming in and the face of the cut was being hit, and that was knocking a little more sand off the cut.  At that time the waves were hitting straight on and the sand was not being swept away.

We have one tropical disturbance below Cuba now.

Happy hunting,
TreasureGuide@Comcast.net

1/2/14 Report - Detecting With GPS and Map Overlays, Silver Find, Beach Conditions Up North and Beach Predictions for the TC.

Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of treasurebeachesreport.blogspot.com.

James F. submitted a hunt report and a very useful description of how he used GPS.

Here is what he said.

...  Been finding quite a few items lately with my nw Minelab E-Trac (which replaces my stolen-eight-months-ago Minelab Explorer SE Pro). A few weeks back, seems the sands of Cocoa Beach and Cape Canaveral were opened up for a bit and we just could not stop finding clad and jewelry along the shore! I actually got TIRED digging quarters there were just loads of em' just about 4 to 8 inches deep...same up in New Smryna Beach where a buddy of mine cleared over 600 coins and 4 gold rings in about 4-hours time!!! Now it seems the ocean has taken that away again and only a few coins here and there with a few junk rings. Anyway, I'm pleased as punch to have managed to get my new Magellan 110 Explorist handheld GPS working well, and take it with me to record my metal detecting trips and finds locations. I was determined to find some free programs for downloading and saving my GPS data for later analysis on target recovery locations and trip records. My favorite thus far is the google map visualizer, whereas you can download your GPS data into it and create a save-able map or jpeg of your tracks. This can be found at:

 http://www.gpsvisualizer.com/map_input?form=google

As an example, here is a google-map overlaid with one of my recent metal detecting hunts (the blue track sharp bends are where I stopped to dig something) jpeg photograph I can use analysing what I found where and when. Right now just having fun experimenting with it, but the possibilities are probably endless.
They had some good hunting up north.  600 coins in four hours!
  Thanks for the software information James.  Good report on the beaches too.

I'm glad to hear that James' health improved, and he is out on the beaches again.


A famous FDR bible disappeared after Bill Clinton conducted a ceremony to swear in Mayor de Blasio.

Here is the link on that story.

http://spiritdaily.com/A12missingbible.htm

Silver Saw Charm

This find is a little unusual.  It is a silver saw charm.

It has a lot of detail and looks like one of those nice vintage saws from decades ago.

Wonder who was wearing that?

It is about one inch long.


It is never too late to start a family tradition.  Christmas is a wonderful time to do that.  It might seem too late this year for a Christmas tradition, but it isn't too late to think about next year.  A nice tradition can last generations.

Whether it is a Christmas train layout, making Christmas tree ornaments, decorating the house a particular way, having a particular type of meal or what, it can add memories to your holiday.

I've mentioned before that my father bought me a big Lionel set when I was very young.  I now know it must have been a huge purchase for him - a really big part of his pay check when money was very scarce.  I've always liked trains and model trains ever since then and still put one around the Christmas tree.  It reminds me of him.

And my grandmother made Christmas tree ornaments.  They were different kinds and made of different things.  I still use my grandmothers ornaments on my own tree year after year.

You have nearly a year to give it some thought to what might be a meaningful tradition for your family.  Every tradition has to start somewhere.  I'm thankful for those that I've inherited.


On the Treasure Coast the wind today was from the south.  The surf was not very high.  That won't change much soon.

The 7 - 11 foot predicted surf for the ninth has disappeared from the predictions already.  Now it is more like five feet.  Too bad.  That doesn't give much hope.

We had another good low tide day.   That will open up some more area to detect.


Happy hunting,
TreasureGuide@comcast.net

7/7/12 Report - Found Ring, How to Determine Age of Cut Stones, & Old Maps

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Photo Submitted by Bill M.

I sometimes receive questions about finds that people make.  People often need help in identifying their finds and want to know how old an item is.  Sometimes I can help with that if it is something I know a little about - maybe it is a type of item that I have personally seen and studied before, but when I don't know much about an item, I can sometimes refer them to a source or someone that does know about that type of item.  And sometimes, as you know, I'll post items here when I think that maybe the readers of this blog can help identify the item.  That works sometimes, but not always.

I'm always learning.  I wish I knew years ago what I know now.  I would have made fewer mistakes.  And I hope you continue to learn through this blog.

I noticed a few minutes ago that the blog is nearing 400,000 hits.  I never dreamed that would happen when I started this blog a few years ago.  Thanks to all the loyal readers and especially those who contribute in one way or another from time to time.

The find shown above fits right in with what I talked about yesterday.  Yesterday I discussed how to test precious metals and gem stones and showed a couple examples of test equipment.

All you can really see in Bill's picture above is the stone, but if you know something about how stones are cut and how that changed over the years, you can get an idea of how old the item might be.

Here is a web site that gives a history of diamond cutting.  Scroll down a little to get to the history.

http://www.georgianjewelry.com/reference/antique_diamonds

Going by this web site and the photo above, it looks to me like the cut on this stone might be an antique rose cut, which the web site says was most common in the 18th and 19th Century.  

Of course, I could be completely wrong.  Let me know what you think.

In any case, this provides a good example of how you might be able to get some idea of the age of an item by looking at the cut of any stones.




A copy of one of  the first maps to show America has been found.  It is a 16th Century map by Martin Waldseemueller.

Here is a link to that BBC article.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18700489


There are, however, some who think that the Chinese discovered and mapped America before Christopher Columbus.

Here is a link that tells more about that.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4609074.stm


Treasure Coast Beach Detecting Forecast and Conditions.

Conditions remain poor.  The wind remains from the south, and we still have one to two foot seas.

It looks like that pattern will continue for at least a few days.

You might want to visually check through some of the lose material in the shallow water.

Happy hunting,
TreasureGuide@comcast.net