Showing posts with label sunken ship. Show all posts
Showing posts with label sunken ship. Show all posts

Saturday, November 2, 2019

11/2/19 Report - Sand Accumulating on Treasure Coast. USS Johnston Found. Hunley Theory.


Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of treasurebeachesreport.blogspot.com.

Fort Pierce South Jetty Beach Friday Evening.
Friday we had some good wind and a higher surf.  It did nothing good to the north end of South Hutchison Island.

Even up by the Fort Pierce inlet where it had been eroded, it had filled again.  Like the other beaches I looked at, it was very mushy.


John Brooks Beach Friday Evening.

Nothing but accumulating sand down around John Brooks.


John Brooks Beach Friday Evening.

Shells were up near the high tide mark.


John Brooks Beach Friday Evening.

From what I saw at the few locations I visited, it looks like nothing but accumulating sand.  Things could be different elsewhere.


North of John Brooks Friday Evening.

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A few days past the 75th anniversary of the Battle of Samar, researchers from Vulcan Inc.’s research vessel R/V Petrel believe they’ve found wreckage from the engagement’s famed Fletcher-class destroyer, USS Johnston (DD-557).
Images of twisted metal, a destroyed deck gun, a propeller shaft and other less recognizable debris were posted to Petrel’s Facebook page Wednesday, with a video narrated by Rob Kraft, Vulcan’s director of subsea operations, and Paul Mayer a submersible pilot with the team started by the late billionaire and philanthropist Paul Allen...
See more at...

https://news.usni.org/2019/10/30/wreck-of-famed-wwii-destroyer-uss-johnston-may-have-been-found

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Ever since the Confederate submarine Hunley was discovered off the South Carolina coast, theorists have wondered what caused it to sink in 1864.

Now Clemson University researchers might have found an explanation to what caused the world’s first successful combat submarine to vanish.

Researchers discovered the Hunley’s air circulation system was not in use when the sub and her eight-man crew disappeared in 1864, the Friends of the Hunley said Wednesday in a news release.

The Hunley held enough oxygen for the crew to survive for roughly two hours, and there were only two ways to replenish the air supply, according to the release...


See https://www.thestate.com/news/local/military/article236813773 for more about that.

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Live bidding on the Sedwick Treasure Auction number 26 continues today

Happy hunting,
TreasureGuide@comcast.net


Thursday, June 15, 2017

6/15/17 Report - Happy Flag Day. Old Sunken Ship. TV Program on 1715 Fleet. Rumors of New Detector.


Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of treasurebeachesreport.blogspot.com.

First U. S.Flag.
Darrel S. reminded me that it is flag day today (June 14).  It seems very few people know about it. I saw a few flags out today, but very few.

Flag Day honors a June 14, 1777, resolution from the Second Continental Congress, which called for an official United States flag.

The resolution called for the flag to "be thirteen stripes, alternate red and white; that the union be thirteen stars, white in a blue field, representing a new constellation."  (From Wikipedia)


The flag with the circles arranged in a circle is referred to as the Betsy Ross variant.

Thanks to Darrel S.

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SAN FRANCISCO – A U.S. Coast Guard ship that first set out to sea during the Spanish-American War and sank off the coast of Southern California 100 years ago won’t be moved anytime soon, officials said Tuesday.

Strong currents and an abundance of sediment would make moving the delicate vessel too difficult, officials said in detailing the discovery of the San Francisco-based USCGC McCulloch. They also paid tribute to its crews, including two members who died in the line of duty...


Here is the link to read more about that.

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2017/jun/14/historic-shipwreck-discovered-off-southern-califor/

I like to give you the sources for the stories I post so you can check them out for yourself.

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Chistopher P. told me about a program on the Expedition Unknown series about the 1715 Fleet.  Below is the description.

Josh Gates travels the coast of Florida and to the newly opened country of Cuba in search of sunken treasure from a fleet of Spanish ships sunk in 1715. The hunt takes him deep into the Atlantic and into the previously sealed National Archives of Cuba.


Here is a link to learn more about that.  Sounds interesting.

http://www.travelchannel.com/shows/expedition-unknown/episodes/expedition-unknown-3

Thanks Christopher.

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I started seeing reports of a new metal detector that was supposed to show you a picture of the target before you dig it.  After looking into those reports it seems they stem from an ad about a detector that will not only show you a picture of the target, but also give you its value.  Then the ad says the detector will do all the hunting for you.  The problem is, as you probably guessed by now, it is fake news - yet it seems a lot of people didn't catch that it was a joke and passed it on like much of the TV and print media would do.

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I remember reading maybe twenty years ago about a metal detector that would show you an image of the target in the ground.  They never seemed to work out or catch on.

Things like the DRS system that costs nearly $6000 will give you a rough image, but not anything like what you might want.

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Its the time of year to start watching nhc.noaa.gov.  Right now there is just one tropical disturbance. It is way out in the south Atlantic too far away to be concerned about at this point.

I heard a lot of thunder today, but it seems it stayed out west.

Not any significant changes to report in beach conditions.

Happy hunting,
TreasureGuide@comcast.net

Wednesday, April 19, 2017

4/19/17 Report - Piedmont Bar Most Likely Identified. Porcelain Doll's Leg. Cooper's Treasure TV Show. Research Tip.


Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of treasurebeachesreport.blogspot.com.

Found Antique Porcelain Doll Leg
I've found porcelain doll legs and arms before.  At least one was exactly like this one.  I sold it quickly and for a good price.  Below is a listing for very similar but slightly different porcelain legs that are listed on Ruby Lane.

The one shown above was found just a couple of days ago.   I'm wondering if it wasn't from the same doll as the one I found before.  The new leg isn't in perfect condition like the one I previously sold.


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The first episode of a new treasure hunting program aired last night.  It started out referring to astronaut Gordon Cooper having detecting equipment on a space mission and keeping track of "hits" as he circled the globe.  The first episode then introduced a huge file of maps and notes on sunken shipwrecks and a few of the first exploratory dives.

You might find it interesting.

This web site will tell you more about the series.

http://www.discovery.com/tv-shows/coopers-treasure/about-coopers-treasure/

Thanks to Dean for the link.

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We have a good idea of what the mystery bar shown yesterday might be.  Bill P. and Dennis S. provided some great information.   The mystery bar appears to be a solder bar.  I found several examples in the literature.  Below is one example.


Source: http://www.oatey.com/doc/Bar_Solder.pdf



While I did not find a picture of a solder bar marked Piedmont, Piedmont is a common name associated with tin and soldering materials.

As you can see form the above illustration, solder bars were used in many applications ranging from automotive to roofing to  plumbing.

Thanks to my readers for the quick and excellent responses.

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Always be alert to construction or anything that changes the landscape, whether an old deck or driveway is being removed, or a house is being torn down or trees are being removed.  Those things can open up new detecting territory.

Back some years ago they were removing the Australian Pines from some of the public parks.  When that happened there were a few finds made where the trees were removed.  That is just one example.

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I always learn something interesting and useful while researching things like the mystery bar.  While doing that research I ran across several old mining and other professional journals, many of which provided some good reading and helpful detecting tips.

You can find journals and magazines that go back a hundred years or more online.  They can give you a lot of history.  While doing my research I saw where there were various kinds of mines, mills and other businesses that could be good hunting grounds.

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Thanks to all who send me questions, comments and answers.  It helps me a lot.

Happy hunting,
TreasureGuide@comcast.net


Sunday, April 27, 2014

4/27/14 Report - Shipwrecks in Gaveston Bay Being Explored, Gold Ring Found on Treasure Coast & More




Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of treasurebeachesreport.blogspot.com.




Shipwreck Site in Galveston Bay
Source KHOU.com video mentioned below. 

Yesterday I talked about speedy recovery of targets in dry sand.  One thing that I didn't emphasize enough is the necessity of a strong heavy scoop with a sturdy handle.  The scoop should be heavy enough to provide momentum and speed when swung, otherwise the technique will be more tiring.




If you looked at the pfd file presenting a  summary of laws related to underwater cultural heritage that I posed a couple of days ago, you could not have missed the heavy presence of BOEM and NOAA.  It looks to me like those two groups could be taking over the field of deep water shipwreck salvage and archaeology.  Their names are showing up more and more when shipwrecks are discovered.  I really wonder if there will be anything that isn't controlled and operated by the government in the future.  Will there be any room left or any reason left for "private" enterprise?  Will anything and everything "private" be demonized as evil, greedy, or selfish?  It is beginning to look that way to me.

Here are two links to web sites presenting discoveries of historic shipwrecks in the Gulf of Mexico.

http://www.khou.com/news/local/No-way-Clock-found-in-shipwreck-debris-off-Galveston-255722941.html

Take a look at the video as well as the text. 

http://archaeology.org/issues/124-1403/features/1811-gulf-of-mexico-monterrey-shipwreck

Here are a couple of paragraphs from this one.

We were a little bit hesitant at first,” says Irion of opening the video feed to the public. For example, if valuable artifacts are found on a wreck site, they might attract looters or salvagers to the area. Or, if an archaeologist makes a premature assessment, a large audience may be there to witness the mistake. One of the artifacts archaeologists were most excited about, for example, was a piece of cloth identified as “the wool jacket.” It tuned out to be a modern T-shirt that snagged on the wreck.

Archaeology is a challenging pursuit under the best circumstances, and even more so when conducted through thousands of feet of water and via a sophisticated, but sometimes very clumsy, ROV. “This is like parallel parking a truck underwater,” commented one of the engineers controlling Herc. “While you’re not sober,” chimed in another. Something as simple as closing the latch on a box of artifacts could take an hour. “Archaeology is sometimes a destructive process,” Irion adds. Previously untouched sites are dismantled in the course of studying them, as artifacts are removed, moved, and occasionally broken. “Sometimes things happen that you don’t want everybody to see.”

As I've said before there is the too prevalent view that the citizen is good for providing tax dollars to fund projects but beyond being a milk cow is not trusted, even when the project is a mile under water.  Where did the concept of public servant go?

Public funded projects should be open to public view and should not be hidden from the public even if someone wants to avoid the embarrassment of a mistake.  An interested and involved public will provide assistance and insure quality.  Simply put, cultural heritage belongs to the public.

Did you also notice the discovery of these wrecks was credited to the government organizations rather than the companies that actually located and reported them?



Another 14K Class Ring
Dug on the Treasure Coast
If you spend much time detecting you'll find a good number of class rings.  Most of the men's class rings are relatively large and therefore easy enough to find.

If you are only finding big gold rings and few ladies or small rings, you are probably using too much discrimination.

One of the larger gold class rings that I ever found was in a small area out of which I dug three or four one ounce sinkers before hitting the ring.  I could have easily quit after digging the first sinkers.

Not only are class rings usually fairly large, but they also often contain all the information you need to find the owner and return the ring.  It shouldn't take too much research.



This was a busy weekend for those of you who attended the meeting at FIT and the Treasure Hunter's Cookout.


Well, it really is starting to seem like summer.  Not only do we have wind from the South and sandy beaches, but now the temperature is climbing.

The high tides are nice and high today, but probably won't do much good because the sea is nearly flat.  I'm not expecting much change any time soon.

Get used to the poor beach detecting conditions.





This is the general type of fish that produced the skeleton that I showed the other day.


Happy hunting,
TreasureGuide@comcast.net
 

 

Tuesday, December 17, 2013

12/17/13 Report - Black Sand and Some Tips for Detecting In It and a Couple of Sunken Ships Discovered


Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of treasurebeachesreport.blogspot.com.

You'll occasionally see black sand on our Treasure Coast beaches.  Some black sand is slightly magnetic.  It is ilmenite, an iron titanium oxide.  Florida ilmenite occurs in round sand-size particles.




Closeup of Black Sand
From the site linked below.
Sometimes you'll see very thin layers and other times thick layers of back sand.  It gets concentrated when the other lighter sand particles such as quartz are moved by wind and waves leaving concentrations of the heavier black sand.  When black sand appears, it is sometimes a sign that conditions are better.

Other heavy minerals on Florida beaches include rutile, zircon, and staurolite.

Ilmenite has industrial uses such as being used in the manufacture of titanium.

Some detectorists have a lot of trouble detecting in black sand.  I don't find it particularly problematic.   It will give false signals, but you can learn to distinguish most signals coming from actual targets from the false signals. 

One thing that will help is swinging your coil with the flow of the black sand instead of across it.  Edges will cause more false signals.  So will foot prints or holes.   Foot prints and holes create sharp edges in the black sand which will cause louder false signals.   It can be difficult to determine if you removed the target from a hole dug in black sand or if you didn't get the target.  

Detecting in black sand is a little like detecting in wet salt sand. 

Here is a nice web site that talks about some different kinds of sand and shows some nice photos of different kinds of sand.

http://www.microscope-microscope.org/applications/sand/microscopic-sand.htm

If you read that site carefully you'll see a couple of nice useful hints.



A shipwreck was discovered on  a Florida beach back in October.  I think I missed that one then.  This one might be only about a hundred years old or so.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/shipwreck-discovered-on-florida-beach/-/1637132/22526280/-/r3wnrv/-/index.html


An 1861 steamer possibly containing gold was found in Lake Huron.  Here is the link to learn more about that.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2522233/Shipwreck-hunter-finds-missing-Keystone-State-1861-ship-Lake-Huron.html


Here are some good prices reported by Kovels Komments.



 
Jesse Owens' 1936 Olympic gold medal set a record for any piece of Olympic memorabilia. SCP Auctions of Laguna Niguel, Calif., sold it on Dec. 8, 2013, for $1,466,574.
 
Norman Rockwell's 1951 painting, "Saying Grace," brought $46 million at a Sotheby's auction on Dec. 4, 2013. It's the highest price ever paid at auction for an American painting and is about 1,500 times as much as Rockwell was paid to paint it (he was paid $3,500, which is equivalent to about $30,500 today).

The lead statue of the Maltese Falcon used as a prop in the 1941 movie sold at a Bonhams auction on Nov. 25, 2013, for $4,085,000.


I always find it interesting what people are willing to pay big bucks for.


On the Treasure Coast we only have about a two-foot surf.  That will increase in a couple of days but not nearly enough to improve beach detecting conditions.


Happy hunting,