Showing posts with label Fiona. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Fiona. Show all posts

Tuesday, August 23, 2016

8/23/16 Report - Storm Aiming At Treasure Coast. Iron Shipwreck Objects. French in Pacific New World.


Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of treasurebeachesreport.blogspot.com.

Tropical Wave Heading Our Way
Source: See link below.
This is the big news for me today.  The weather system following Fiona is heading our way.  You can see that in the picture above.  It is still a few days away.  The strength and possibly the track could change before it gets here.

Here is the link to that.

http://blog.spiritdaily.com/news-links/tropical-wave-could-develop

Fiona is still heading north of us, and Gaston is expected to become a hurricane soon, but is still expected to head out into the North Atlantic.

Below is the relative position of all three.

Source: nhc.noaa.gov
The surf is expected to increase daily for several days.  See the chart below.

Surf Predictions For Fort Pierce
MagicSeaWeed.com

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Here is some good reading.  It isn't about the Treasure Coast, but it does relate to the exploration and discovery of the New World.

It is the 1918 text of the Annual Publication of the Southern California Historical Society - a lengthy but interesting bit of history about the French and the Pacific trade.  Take a look.

https://archive.org/stream/annualpublicatio19181920hist/annualpublicatio19181920hist_djvu.txt

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Collection of Iron Finds by Darrel S.
Photo submitted by Darrel S.
Here is what he said about the photo.

Image from my personal collection. Fortunate to have John Powell and Lance restored my ferrous artifacts. Some took years, others less time. From Corrigans over past 25 years. You will see an awl as well as a double pointed object believed to be used as an enscriber (I believed part of crossbow.) I will send images from McLarty Museum later of both possibilities.


The double pointed object that he refers to is at about the five o'clock postiion.

Happy hunting,
TreasureGuide@comcast.net

Monday, August 22, 2016

8/22/16 Report - Another Cache From the 2004 Hurricanes. Old Great Lakes Shipwreck. Fort Benton Dig. Fiona and Other Weather Systems.


Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of treasurebeachesreport.blogspot.com.

Another Post-Hurricane Cache
Source: 2015 Orlando Sentinel Clipping
sent to me by Darrel S.
This cache was found by Joel Ruth in Brevard County just after Hurricane Jeanne.  I've been talking a good bit about caches lately and decided to add this one.

There were really a lot of finds after Jeanne and Francis.  Coins were found in bunches by a number of  detectorists after the hurricanes.  I've shown only a very few of those that I know about.

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Zika appears to be spreading.  Portect youself from mosquitos in any case.  Here is a link about that.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/health-care/article96420487.html

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ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) — The second-oldest confirmed shipwreck in the Great Lakes, an American-built, Canadian-owned sloop that sank in Lake Ontario more than 200 years ago, has been found, a team of underwater explorers said Wednesday...

The sloop Washington was built on Lake Erie in Pennsylvania in 1798 and was used to transport people and goods between western New York, Pennsylvania and Ontario. It was placed on skids and hauled by oxen teams across the Niagara Isthmus to Lake Ontario in 1802 after being sold to Canadian merchants...

Here is the link.

http://www.denverpost.com/2016/08/17/explorers-find-second-oldest-confirmed-shipwreck-great-lakes/

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FORT BENTON – Perhaps as many as 120 years have passed since the historic old Fort Benton had both its blockhouses, defensive towers at opposite corners of the fur-trade-era fort...

An archaeological dig is underway to determine exactly where the southwest blockhouse was, its pieces long ago repurposed...


Here is that link.

http://www.greatfallstribune.com/story/news/local/2016/08/15/digging-history-fort-benton/88810422/

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This has been a tough year for me.  Jan. 1 I broke and tooth, then a multitude of things happened including my mother's hospitalization, then I spent this past weekend in the hospital.  My luck has been as bad as the weather had been hot.  I've had a two decades worth of inconvenience in a single year. I'm fine now. It was a weird thing, and I'm back to normal. Hope the worst of this year is over.

I was headed to the walk-in clinic when I got sick as a dog and had to pull into an gas station.  I drove over to an unpaved exit that I thought was pretty much out of the way where I had to open the door and throw-up everything in side me, while some fellow blew his horn for me to move because I guess I was inconveniencing him.  I really appreciated that.  Actually I was too sick at the time to pay it much other than passing attention.

It has been month after month of the same type of weather.  I'm hoping for a change there too.  I'd like to see a good long storm but not a hurricane.

Source: nhc.noaa,gov

Fiona is still out there and heading towards Bermuda.

The second one (yellow) has not strengthened yet, but could head our way.

The third is expected to become a cyclone very soon, but is still expected to head out into the North Atlantic.

This morning the surfing web site predicted a ten foot surf for the Treasure Coast, but that didn't last long.  It is not back down to around three feet.  Those big bumps you see in the surf report 7 to 10 out seldom last.

We'll have to wait a little longer before we get any kind of a good idea about what these weather systems will bring to the Treasure Coast.

Glad to be out of the hospital.  I did my last post from the hospital bed.  First time I was a hospital patient in the last sixty years or so.  Don't want to be one again.

I still have a lot of finds and stuff to show you.  Sometimes I'm missing a detail that I'd like to include and don't have the time to spend researching it.

Happy hunting,
TreasureGuide@comcast.net

Sunday, August 21, 2016

8/21/16 Report - Three 16th Century Shipwrecks Found Off Florida Coast. More On The Beach Cache or Caches. Atlantic Storms.


Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of treasurebeachesreport.blogspot.com.


It's relatively common to find debris from rocket launches in the waters off Cape Canaveral in Florida, but divers exploring the seabed recently uncovered artifacts from an age of exploration long before America's space program: 22 cannons and a marble monument in what they think are three 16th-century Spanish shipwrecks.
The finds include three ornate bronze cannons — two that are 10 feet (3 meters) long and one that is 7 feet (2 m) long — and the marble monument, engraved with the coat of arms of the king of France, which has been identified from the manifest of a 1562 expedition to Florida by the French navigator and colonialist Jean Ribault...
Here is the link for the rest of the story.

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Yesterday I had what I would call a very good post for you.  Scott's story illustrates the kind of thing we all like about metal detecting.  I enjoyed it very much because it is the kind of thing we all can relate to.

After discussing the cache some more with both Darrel and Scott, it appears that there might have been some confusion.  It is looking like there could possibly have been two different Bobs and two different caches. There are details that match and detail that don't.  It sounds like there are two different Bobs.  And there are two different locations given by the different reports. Yet the two independent descriptions of the cache are extremely similar, including the type and number of cobs.  It would be very interesting if there were two very similar caches found at the base of the eroded dunes at two different beaches.  (I don't have permission to give the one location.)  That would bring up some questions.

This confusion does not diminish the value or interest of Scott's and Darrel's accounts. It actually makes the story all the more intriguing.   Think about it.  Two different caches composed of a very similar number of exceptionally nice 8-reales, both found at the base of newly eroded dunes.

It is just the nature of treasure stories to leave some unanswered questions.

Thanks to both Scott and Darrel for their stimulating accounts.

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Source: nhc.noaa.gov
There are three weather systems in the Atlantic now.  The first is Tropical Storm Fiona, which seems to still be headed towards Bermuda.

The second has a lower chance of becoming a cyclone real soon, but the projected path for it comes closer to Florida.  It is about five days away.  We'll have to wait to see where it actually goes.

The newest has a strong chance of becoming a cyclone in the next couple of days, but is expected to head north into the North Atlantic.

The nine to fourteen foot surf prediction disappeared in a hurry.  Now it is nothing like that.

Happy hunting,
TreasureGuide@comcast.net

Saturday, August 20, 2016

8/20/16 Report - More Of The Story of the Handful of Eight Reales. Fiona Still On Track. 9 to 14 Foot Surf Predicted For Treasure Coast.


Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of treasurebeachesreport.blogspot.com.

On 8/16/16 I posted the picture below and told about the truly exceptional reales found by Bob M. You just don't find cobs in that kind of condition on a beach very often, and high denomination cobs are very unusual at the beach were they were found.

As great as the find was, I got even more of the story from somebody else that was on the same beach that day when these reales were found.  This additional information made the story even better.

Superior Reales Found by Bob M. After 2003 Storms
Photo submitted by Darrel Strickland
Scott (aka Trez) is the other person that was there that day.  Scott sent me the story as he saw it in an email.  The email follows immediately below.

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I love the photo of all the cobs in Bob's hand.  Here is the story as I remember.   I know Bob would remember it, thats for sure.

I was with him on the beach that day when he found all those cobs.  All came out of a very small area right at the base of a freshly cut dune. That particular day we both were working/walking South along this particular stretch of beach.

We were both be-bopping along for sometime and no one else was there yet just us.  We didn't even know each other.  We may have said hello as we both took off in the same direction along the dune line.  We were just walking/detecting and both trying to get out of each others way I guess.

I would have to stop and dig a target then he would pass by me, then he would stop and dig a target and I would pass by him and so forth and so forth all the way down this stretch of beach. I guess he was the luckier out of the two that day as I stopped to dig a target he passed me and his next target was all those PERFECT FRESHLY MINTED pieces of 8 (if not mistaken they were all 8). I passed him not looking or being nosey as he dug them.  I just moved along thinking to myself damn that guy just scored something good, but at the time didn't know how good...

It wasn't until the high tide started coming back in until we saw each other again.  I had jumped up into the dunes for a break and to keep my Sovereign XS from getting soaked and wave washed.

As I sat, here came Bob, he saw me and I saw him, he stopped and came up into the dune with me,  We finally introduced ourselves to each other and sat and talked about the day.  I brought up the part where he passed me and stopped and dug for awhile.  I had to ask him ok what did you find??? He was super nice, and you could see the surprise and happiness on his face as he reached into his pocket and pulled out 8 reales by the handfuls.  These were/are not your typical beach/water reales.  These were FULLY weighted pieces as if they just pulled from the burlap sack and buried in the dune until they would be found again.
They were and still are the finest examples of beach found 8 reales that I (personally) have ever seen come from any of the wreck-site beaches (they are pristine 8s).

Even as I think about them now as I write this, they were incredible coins.
Thank you Bob for letting me hold them, examine them and drool over them.  I have to admit that find still haunts me.


I saw Bob a few times since then but never at the beach, usually unloading his bread truck at a store, but we always said hello to each other.

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Thanks Scott.   You weren't the lucky one to hit those reales. but you had a great experience and helped us all by filling in the details and giving more of the story.

The story I'm talking about isn't just about a find.  It isn't only about coins.  It is about a lot more than that.

I'll start with the coins.  They were forgotten - buried under sand for centuries.  Nobody knew about them after being lost for such a long time.

Those who manufactured them, transported them, valued and expected them, protected them and lost them, saw them differently.  They meant something different to all of those people.

To some, those coins were a heavy burden.  To some they were a curse.  To others they were a highly coveted.  That was the part of the story that happened long ago before the cobs were lost and forgotten.

Then they were found.  The light of human consciousness shined upon them once again, and once again they became something important to somebody again.  They became a part of another story as experienced by Bob and Trez.  In a way, Bob M. brought those coins back to life as they became a part of Bob's and Scott's life.  History was uncovered, and at the same time, history was made.

Unlike the countless grains of sand around him that day, those cobs became very meaningful again.
A coin or artifact has no meaning by itself.

Meaning is a matter of relationships - how an object relates to other objects and to people.  A part of history was recovered and restored.  But just as important, those three hundred year old cobs entered powerfully into the present.

The coins didn't give meaning to Bob.  Bob gave meaning to the coins. Bob M. brought those forgotten coins back to life, but that wasn't the only magic that took place that day.

They became a part of Scott's life too.  He wondered about and then saw the cobs that he missed finding by just a few feet. They became a part of his story.  Because of the story we now know, they have become a part of each of us.

Some of us assimilate it more completely than others.  The story will be more meaningful to some. Some of us will note the extra fine condition of the cobs, and we know how unusual it is to find cobs like that at that particular location because we've hunted there before - some of us many times, so we know the location, the dunes, the sights and normal slope of the beach.  Some readers will carefully note how they were found "right at the base of a freshly cut dune."  Some of us will immediately relate to leap-frogging with another detectorist on a lonely beach, wondering what we missed and then discussing the day standing or sitting at the top of a dune as the water comes in.

I have no doubt that when Bob sat down with Trez, Bob was as eager to show his find as Trez was to see what he might have missed. Maybe you've been there before.

We've all been there. The difference between finding and not finding is very thin.  One step one way or another can make all the difference.  It can be a matter of a foot or even an inch.

Trez didn't lose.  He took a lot away from that day.  And he shared it with us.

There is more than one person in any good story.  No man is an island, just like no object is an island. People have no meaning without relationships, and as the archaeologists always say, objects have no meaning without relationships.

Bob felt the magic when he recovered those cobs, and maybe you felt the magic when you read the story Scott shared with us.  Maybe the picture of those coins excited something in you.  Maybe you could relate to the experiences that Bob and Scott shared.  Maybe it brought back memories for you.

Hundreds of readers have now shared in their story to some extent. They read, looked, wondered, remembered, thought, and felt.  The magic was passed on through the sharing of their story.

Not the end.

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Predicted Track of Fiona
Source: nhc.noaa.gov
Fiona is still heading towards Bermuda.  There is another distubance behind Fiona that has a 10% chance of becoming a cyclone in the next 48 hours.

We'll have some nice negative tides today.  The surf will remain small for at least a few days.

They are predicting a surf of nine to fourteen feet about nine days from now.  That would be something, but as I've said many times, their longer range surf predictions aren't really that good.  We'll just have to keep watching for a while to see if that is really going to happen.

Happy hunting,
TreasureGuide@comcast.net



Friday, August 19, 2016

8/19/16 Report - 68 Karat Treasure Coast Emerald Find. More On The Recent 1809 8-Escudo. Tropical Storms.


Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of treasurebeachesreport.blogspot.com.

The 68 Karat Emerald Found At Golden Sands Beach.
Photos submitted by Darrel S.


This emerald was found while the lady below was collecting shells at Golden Sands beach.  She took it to the McLarty Museum and showed it to Ed Perry, who took the photos.  Ed sent an email to Darrel S. who sent the photos and information to me.

Lady Who Found 68 Karat Emerald On Treasure Coast Beach.
Photo submitted by Darrel S.
Unlike the coin I showed the discussed the past couple of days, this emerald is not a new find.  It was found back around 2005.

People sometimes ask me where to detect. I've been posting a lot of finds lately and sometimes even telling you where they were found.  That should give you some ideas.

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A few days ago I was talking about thumb rings and gimmel rings and showed some pictures from James Planche's book, An Illustrated Dictionary of Historic Costume, From the First Century B C. to c. 1760.   Larry had a book that was printed in 1940 in which the same illustrations and text appeared, so it looks like the information that I presented came from an earlier source than the one I referenced.   Thanks Larry.

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The 1809 8-escudo that I showed yesterday shows FERDIN VII in the legend, which would undoubtedly refer to Fernando VII who took the throne in 1808 but who was not the king in 1809 when the coin was made.  Fernando VII was replaced by Napolean's brother, Jose Bonapart, from 1808 to 1814 before Fernando was returned to the throne.

That type of coin ( referrred to as type 15 in Monedas Espanolas desde Juana y Carlos a Isabel II ) was made in years 1808 through 1812.  Assayer H.J. is listed only for the years 1809 -1811.

There appears to be a long unbroken series of silver coins for each year leading up to 1810 in the Florida Collection.  I'd guess probably from wrecks affected by the 1810 hurricane.

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Source: nhc.noaa.gov
Fiona still is headed for Bermuda.  It appears that another storm is forming behind Fiona.

The tides are fairly large now, but the surf will remain small for at least a few more days.

Happy hunting,
TreasureGuide@comcast.net