Friday, August 15, 2014

8/15/14 Report - Bronze Rod Shipwreck Finds. 1715 Fleet Posey Rings and Bracelet Finds With Inscriptions To Be Translated.

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Bronze Pin With Washers
Photo submitted by Trez

Trez sent the above picture of an item found by his father at Corrigans after seeing my 8/10/14 post, which showed some similar objects found by UB (shown below).


Trez says The washer's (on the item above) actually have some ornate markings along it, I wonder if the other man's spike does?

UB and I referred to these items as spikes in the 8/10 post.  It seems to me now that they are not spikes at all.  The photo that Trez sent shows that both ends are flared. 

Notice the rods on the cannon carriage below. 

I believe that the ones above would be used similarly to the ones shown in the cannon carriage shown below.  They appear to be smaller, though, and for lighter duty.

I would not be surprised if many of those types of things of various sizes were to be found on every ship.

If you can point me to any other pictures of bronze rods with what we have referred to as washers, or if you know the correct names and how they were used, please let me know.

Thanks in advance for any help.  I think Trez's pictures show that UB's items (at least the two that are not covered by wood) are not spikes.

Thanks Trez.

A posey ring is a finger ring, often of high carat gold, with a poem or motto inscribed on it.  The tradition goes back to the Middle Ages. 

Here are a couple of examples of 18th Century posey rings.

Photo source:

These examples are English.

Posey rings have been found on 1715 Fleet wrecks.  Two examples are very large, and may have been worn over gloves.

The inscriptions on the two 1715 Fleet rings, one found in 1989 and the other in 1996, are as follows:



Presumably those abbreviated messages would be in Spanish.

They were originally published in the Oct. 1977 Florida Historical Quarterly in an article by Catherine M. Gaither.

I could not find those pictures now.

Like the two posey rings shown above where the words are separated by marks, the abbreviated words on the 1715 Fleet rings are separated by crosses.

There is also an old Treasure Coast beach find bracelet reported to have the following similar inscription.


If anyone can translate or decode these inscriptions, I'd be very happy to hear from you.

I hope some one will take up this project and get us the answer.

Here is the specific source link for the two posey ring photos shown above.

One of those disturbed areas is just coming off of Africa again.  It has only a 10% chance of becoming a cyclone in the next 48 hours.

On the Treasure Coast the conditions remain the same.  Same calm surf and South wind.

Happy hunting,