Tuesday, February 9, 2016

2/9/16 Report - Silver Marks. Finds As Clues:Part I. Billion Dollar Wreck:Treasure of the Republic.

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Silver Pipe Mount On Pipe.
Source: http://www.silvercollection.it/DICTIONARYTOBACCONISTH.html
Yesterday I showed the marked silver item found by Dan B.  I found what I think might be the answer.

It looks to be a flattened pipe mount.  The makers mark "HPandS" likely stands for Henry Perkins and Sons of London.  The year mark "n" could be 1928 or 1908.  They are similar and I haven't studied them well enough to tell the difference.

Here is a dictionary of marks where the Henry Perkins and Sons mark can be seen.


And you can find the year marks at this site.


There is a lot of information to be found on marked silver.  Too bad it isn't so easy to research most other things.


There is no better clue than a find.  As I've shown in the polls that I conducted in this blog, if you make one find the probability is very good that you will make more finds of a similar age or type. You can look at all kinds of things, including the shape of the beach, the wind and waves, and everything else, but the very best indicator is a find.  Nothing else is quite as good at telling when you are at a good location at the right time.

But not only does the presence of an item tell you something important, the condition and appearance of a find can also tell you a lot.  Is it old or new?  Is it worn or not?  Does it have a patina, and if so what kind? Those things can provide helpful information.

I've shown many silver coins and cobs found by different people at different times, including those found by salvage crews and even some from other states.  You've seen how different those cobs can look, especially before they are cleaned.

When I was digging one location up north, the old cuprous coins were all in very bad shape.  The soil there seemed to really corrode copper coins, while the silver coins often came up looking shiny and nice.  Different environments affect coins differently.

Beach coins are affected by a lot of things.  Salt water has a big effect on silver coins.  They start to turn black in very short order.  Besides the amount of salt water they are exposed to, they can be buried in different types of sand or around other metals that can have an affect on their appearance.

Some of the beach zones are very turbulent.  I've shown clad quarters, dimes and pennies bent in half.  I believe that happens when coins are caught between rocks in the turbulent surf zone.  Tons of force caused by water and shifting rocks, shells and sand can work on anything caught in that zone.

Objects in deeper water and objects buried in the dunes are much more protected.  In deep water there is not nearly the same amount of force on objects that is encountered in the surf zone.  And objects buried in the dunes might seldom be touched by salt water.  Rain water has a much less corrosive effect.

In the surf zone, objects can be tumbled and sand blasted having the same type of effect on coins that you see on frosted sea glass.  If the items are buried under enough sand or buried in a crack or pot hole, they can be protected from much of that.

The point that I want to make today is that silver beach coins are affected by a lot of different things that can affect their appearance, and the appearance of a coin can tell you something about its past and where it has been hiding and where it came from.  If you study those clues, that can lead you to more finds.

Tomorrow I plan to show you a scientific study on how ocean environment chemically alters silver reales.  Although I already pointed out some of the facts revealed by this study, I'm glad that I found a scientific study that confirms some of the things that I have been saying.


The price of gold has been going up for the past couple of weeks.


Former Island resident Martin Bayerle’s 35-year search for a reputed billion-dollar treasure, sunk off Nantucket for more than a hundred years, comes to life at 10 pm on Feb. 8, in the first episode of an eight-part series from the History Channel.
“Billion Dollar Wreck: The Mysterious Treasure of the Republic” chronicles Mr. Bayerle’s most recent effort to find $3 million (1909 value) in American Eagle gold coins, worth more than a billion dollars today, thought to be aboard the luxury liner RMS Republic, which sank about 50 miles off Nantucket on Jan. 24, 1909, while being towed back to New York after colliding with another ship...

Here is the link for more of that article.  Thanks to Dean for the link.



The wind switched again.  This morning it is from the north again.  It seems like it has been switching every day.  It has been a lot to keep up with, but not much change.  We've had nothing that has lasted long enough to do much of anything.

Happy hunting,