Showing posts with label counterfeit coins. Show all posts
Showing posts with label counterfeit coins. Show all posts

Thursday, March 1, 2018

3/1/18 Report - 9 - 13 Foot Surf Predicted For Next Week. Counterfeit Coin Ring. Cannons Found. Eroding Graves.


Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of treasurebeachesreport.blogspot.com.

Counterfeit Morgans Made in China.
Source:TheSpruce.com (Link immediately below.)
Yesterday I posted a link to a very good web site that tells how to identify counterfeit and fake coins.  Here is a link to an article about a Chinese counterfeiting ring.

https://www.thespruce.com/chinese-coin-counterfeiting-ring-4071202

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The following excerpts provide a reminder of the continual effect of erosion, and it relates to something else I've mentioned a few times lately.

There have been more than a million people buried in the mass graves on Hart Island since 1980, but since the damage of Hurricane Sandy, that’s become a gruesome problem...

“The cliffs of Hart Island are sort of exposed and bones are washing up on Long Island Sound – that hasn’t been repaired yet,” said Melinda Hunt, the founding director of the Hart Island Project which identified more than 67,000 people buried there.

Most of the problem is in the northern shore of Hart Island where there is a steep bank heavily damaged by the 2012 storm.

“If you are in Orchard Beach, which has lots and lots of New Yorkers, it’s what you are looking at directly,” said Hunt. “That’s where are bones are washing up into the sound.”


http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2018/02/26/bones-from-hart-island-mass-graves-washing-up-in-local-communities/

After one reader brought up the question, I've been asking about 1715 graves that have been discovered.  I've received reports of one or two being discovered, but that is about it - nothing like you might expect from the number of deaths.

My thought has been that the dead would have been buried as quickly as possible by people trying to survive in the summer heat and humidity after a hurricane.  The graves at Hart Island were being eroded and washed out.  I suspect that the same thing might have happened to the survivor graves on the Treasure Coast.  Of course I have no evidence of that - just a theory.

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Source: TheStar.com (See link below). 

GEORGE TOWN: Archaeologists in Penang discovered twin cannons buried 1.2m below the ground beside Fort Cornwallis at the Esplanade here.

The 2.2m and 2.35m-long cannons, which are believed to be at least 200 years old, were discovered during the excavation of the fort’s moat and outer defensive structures at around 2pm on Monday.

Penang chief archaeologist Datuk Dr Mokhtar Saidin said the discovery could change Fort Cornwallis’ history as a “peaceful fort.” 

Here is the link if you want to read the rest of the article.

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2018/02/21/double-ang-pow-discovery-in-penang/

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Source: MagicSeaWeed.com.
Here is the really big news.  March might actually march in like a lion.  The predictions have been very consistent for a few days now.  After a few weeks of summer-like weather and beach conditions, this big surf might actually happen.  Its only a few days off now.  Time to check out your equipment and get your batteries charged.  Not only will the surf be big, but the predictions are showing a north wind along with the big surf.  We also now have some nice big tides.


Wednesday, February 28, 2018

2/28/18 Report - Button ID in Process. Great Web Site for Identifying Fake Coins. Big Surf Predicted.


Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of treasurebeachesreport.blogspot.com.

Found on Internet by Alberto S.
The above button is VERY much like the button I asked about yesterday (Shown below for your convenience.).  The differences are very small.

As you can see the button above was conjectured to be either WW I or WW II English/Canadian or from the Royal Italian Navy and rumored to be found at a Civil War site.  Lot of confusion there.  I'm still thinking good possibility of being modern decorative.  The back of the above button is missing while mine is obscured by encrustation.  When the back is cleaned, that should help narrow down the age of the button.  At this point, I'd guess maybe 20th century.

Mystery Button.
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I've been tumbling a lot of coins and cleaning some things lately.  When I was in Harbor Freight the other day I noticed they had a good variety of tumblers.  I'd never think of looking there for tumblers.

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Here is a super web site for identifying counterfeit and fake coins.  It is really exceptional and think you'll want to take a look at it.  It tells how to identify counterfeit coins of all types.  I mentioned it once some years ago.

Here it is.

http://www.coinnews.net/2008/02/01/archaeologists-find-old-gold-coin-worth-45000-in-latrine-at-construction-site-3899/

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"The original idea of the internet was a very decentralized system and a democratic space where everyone could have a place to talk," said Taplin. "The big three online: Google, Facebook and Amazon, are more and more becoming monopolies, so it is a winner takes all business."

We are all internet users and this is something you should know about, The internet is used for commerce communication and influence. Whether you want to sell a coin, do some research, or stick up for your hobby, you should know about the power of the internet. It can change markets, culture and who wins elections. If any of the tech giants throws their weight ever so slightly in one direction or another it can influence the world.

Here is the link to read more about that.
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/silicon-valley-faces-make-or-break-moment-amid-big-tech-n847301

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The big news for me is the prediction of a bigger surf starting Sunday.  The predictions seem to be holding steady.  Still a few days left to see if it really happens.

Surf Predictions for Fort Pierce Area
Source: MagicSeaWeed.com
The moon is getting fuller and the tides are getting bigger.  We'll have some pretty good tides today.

Happy hunting,
TreasureGuide@comcast.net


Thursday, June 30, 2016

6/30/16 Report - Counterfeiting In Colonial America and Implications For Spanish Colonial Cobs.


Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of treasurebeachesreport.blogspot.com.

I found some good information on counterfeiting in colonial America the other day.  There was a
ton of good information, including some good hints for detectorists.

First, here is a quote from an article entitled entitled The Golden Age of Counterfeiting that was published in the Summer 2007 Colonial Williamsburg Newsletter.  In the early eighteenth century, counterfeiting in America entered a kind of golden age that would last for roughly a hundred and fifty years. And these were high-stake years, because phony money threatened to weaken confidence in the finances of the young nation. Without trust in the dollar, there could be no commerce; without commerce, there could be no country. The history of America's money is largely a history of the struggle to keep a step ahead of the forgers.

In the same article, author Jack Lynch says the following.

A common practice was to clip or shave small amounts of silver or gold from each coin and to accumulate enough shavings to sell them as bullion. Coin clipping prompted monetary crises across Europe and its colonies, forcing people to rethink the notion of value. A shilling coin, for example, was supposed to contain one shilling's worth of silver—but, as the coins passed through one unscrupulous hand after another, more and more metal was trimmed, and the difference between intrinsic values and face values grew ever wider. In 1662, therefore, England began using machines to give coins milled edges, like the ridges that appear on modern dimes and quarters, which make it easier to spot clipped coins. But the older pieces remained in circulation until the end of the century, and they continued to be clipped. According to one estimate, by 1695, clippers had reduced the old handmade coins to about half of their original weight, the rest of the gold and silver circulating in an underground economy. It took a systematic revaluation of the currency, with all the old hand-minted coins removed from circulation, to solve the problem.

Half of their original weight!  

When clipping became more difficult, counterfeiters turned to making their own coins.   

Paper money was new and confusing to many colonists.  As a result it was easy to pass doctored bills.

Here is the link to that article.


What really got me started on this topic today was an interesting book that I found online.  You can read part of it free.  It is full of information that I think any detectorist would find interesting.

The book I am talking about is Counterfeiting in Colonial America by Kenneth Scott.  Much of the counterfeiting described had to do with paper currency, but there were also individuals who modified coins or made their own coinage.  I learned that the British made counterfeit currency to cause problems for the colonial economy during the revolution.  I'm sure that we could do better in the war on terror if we'd use more diverse techniques.

On a side note, it seems the wife of the Orlando shooter who attended the Islamic Center in Fort Pierce has disappeared.  It was easy to see that coming.  The father of the shooter as much as said it was going to take place.  I personally don't think the administration wants her to be found.  My bet is that they don't want to put her through any investigation that might become public, and they want the whole thing to be forgotten as quickly as possible.

Here is an interesting excerpt from the Kenneth Scott book.

Fake coins, usually Spanish and Portuguese gold and silver, were those most generally imitated. Much of the the work was careless, as when milled pieces of eight, dated 1754 were struck with the name PHILIP instead of FERDINAND on them, or when the pieces were too light or rang false or showed quicksilver oozing out of them or would shatter when thrown on the ground or showed the marks of filing to remove the nob left where the metal had been poured into the mold.  On the other hand, the public was defenseless against such masterpieces as the doubloons which were circulating in and about Philadelpia in 1748 and 1749.  

One merchant, Christopher Sauer, had such a coin examined by three goldsmiths before it was finally discovered that the coin was only one-half gold.  Christopher wondered, If, then, goldsmiths cannot differentiate the coins by their appearance, how is the farmer, who has, indeed, had little gold in his hands, to recognize them?


Counterfeiting was a real problem.  It was a crime that often went unpunished.

Here is another excerpt from the same book.

It is quite possible that Smith was actually guilty of clipping, but it was extremely difficult to prove the crime as his case shows.  Suspicion again fell upon him, for at a session of the court held in Burlington in August 1701, Thomas South testified before the grand jury that in November 1700, Elizabeth Hill, who was making the bed in a chamber upstairs, called to him to come up to her.  He did so and, on looking in her father's closet, among other assorted items found a coffee dish containing clippings of coin to the value of ten or twelve shillings...

When it was punished it was often punished in what we might consider a cruel way, such as loss of a finger or ear or lashes on the back.  Here is an example from the Scott book.



If you want to go directly to the Scott book, click here.

You might also want to browse old issues of the American Numismatic Society Newsletter.  For example, I found the following report of a mid 1700s event described in an 1882 issue of the American Numismatic Society Newsletter.  (Read Goal as jail.) 


I never appreciated how prevalent and how important counterfeiting was in colonial America.  If you read through this type of material you'll read about counterfeiters trying to get rid of the evidence.  I also read about printing plates being hid in walls and in wells.  And who knows where all the clippings went or where the counterfeits were discarded, concealed or lost.

Realizing how prevalent counterfeiting was, old counterfeits might show up at any time.

It makes you think about how prevalent counterfeiting must have been in Spanish Colonial areas. There must be more contemporary counterfeits than we realize.  The presumption that we can always recognize them could be a mistake.   Although we know that some cobs were minted underweight, I wonder how many were clipped or shaved.

I especially wonder about salvage sites, where I would not be surprised if there was a lot of opportunistic shaving or clipping as well as outright theft.

I've entertained the idea that something else might have been going on at the salvage beaches.  I won't say exactly what yet.  I hope to gain more evidence before posing my theory.

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No change in beach conditions or tropical weather.

Happy hunting,
TreasureGuide@comcast.net