Showing posts with label sifting. Show all posts
Showing posts with label sifting. Show all posts

Monday, March 16, 2020

3/16/20 Report - Reales Found While Sifting Peace River For Fossils. Meth? Handy Tools For Any Detectorist.


Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of treasurebeachesreport.blogspot.com.

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1784 and 1805 Coins Found by Lady Sifting For Fossils In The Peace River.
Submitted by Robert H.
Robert H. sent me this news along with the two photos.
Here’s a very cool and interesting story. I belong to a Facebook fossil group and this lady found 2 reales sifting for fossils on the Peace River. Unfortunately it looks like the fossil group or she took down the post but the lady that found them gave me permission to share with you.

Other Side of Same Two Coins.
Photo submitted by Robert H.
I know that some of the readers of this blog have been fossil hunting on the Peace River.  Its always an interesting trip.

I went there once myself.  I hired one of the guides that do it for a business.  If you hire somebody to take you the first time, you'll save a lot of time trying to find out where to go.

I always like sifting.  When targets are packed closely together, there is no need to detect each and every one separately.  Just dig and sift.  And of course sifting is good for non-metallic targets.

Thanks Robert.

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It seems we have a diversity of opinions on the mystery items I showed yesterday.  Brian F. says the crystal like items look like crystal meth.  He provided the following link.


https://chapterscapistrano.com/how-to-tell-if-someone-is-on-crystal-meth-signs-of-crystal-meth-use/

Brian also said, Meth seems to come in blue or white and i have detected two heroin bottles on TC beaches before. This would not surprise me. 

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A detectorist will find a variety of items beside a metal detector and sand-scoop helpful.  One of the less obvious is an ultra-violet or black light.

A black light is most useful for identifying non-metallic objects such as gems or minerals.  Certain types of glass, such as Vaseline glass or depression glass will fluoresce.

I discovered that one piece of red sea glass that I found fluoresced under ultraviolet light on just one side.  I believe it was a piece of a lantern from an old buoy that was infused with uranium. I noticed some yellow in the glass, but didn't pay much attention to it until I put it under a black light and found out it glowed.


Many interesting beach finds, including calcite crystals, certain fossil shells and even arrow points made of fossilized coral will glow.  I once found an old fishing lure that glows in the dark.  

Yesterday I posted a discussion of fluorite crystals, which will fluoresce.  In fact, the word "fluoresce" was derived from the word "fluorite" which was the first mineral discovered to fluoresce.

Other tools that might come in hand include the following.

Obviously enough, a magnifying glass, jewelers loop or microscope will undoubtedly come in handy.  Sometimes the naked eye just isn't enough.

A camera that will take good closeup photos is also very useful.

Another very useful item is a magnet.  Many of the questions that I receive can quickly be answered by using a simple magnet.  It is inexpensive and easy to use.  Some coins are magnetic, such as the steel war pennies and many foreign coins.

Another important item is a good scale for weighing small items such as coins.  The weight of a coin will often tell you a lot about the coin - perhaps what denomination it is, how badly it is corroded, or if it is made of the correct metal.

An acid test or test pen for testing metals is very handy, although you can take items to a pawn shop or jeweler to have the metal tested by XRF.

I'd also recommend a rock tumbler for cleaning common coins.  DON'T tumble items that could be historic or valuable.  Don't tumble encrusted objects until you know what they are.  I've made that mistake before.

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Don't expect any more than a four foot surf this week.

Happy hunting,
Treasureguide@comcast.net

Thursday, May 16, 2019

5/16/19 Report - One Way To Accelerate Your Learning Curve. Beaches Where You Can Find Fossils. Finds. Trash and Treasure.


Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of treasurebeachesreport.blogspot.com.

Fossil Finds by DJ
Photo by DJ.

I received these photos and message from DJ about his first fossil hunt.  The photo above shows the finds of DJ's first fossil hunting trip.

I had read some past blogs on fossil hunting and Peace River. Saw some finds you posted from Bill and Dan.

I went with a guide since I believe if time is limited, that may be a good way to find things until you learn the ropes.

Our guide was very sharp and explained a lot of things, in the picture you can see many shark teeth, part of a broken mammoth tooth, several DuoGong rib bones, fossilized shell ‘molds’, stingray teeth plates and a claw from a giant tortoise.

Others found parts of Megladon teeth, horse teeth.

I like to hear the explanations and hunting techniques.

Like you have said, the story behind the find is fascinating, there is always something to find and most importantly (for me) don’t throw anything away until you get an ID.

And the places to look have to be learned, gravel holds the smaller stuff and deeper gravel holds larger better finds. Some people use a golf club with the head cut off as a probe to see how deep the gravel is. And the gravel moves and builds up over time like sand on the beach!

Learning where not to hunt is important as well, people have to throw out the stuff from their screens and it is easy to find yourself digging in someones spoil pile.

Here are a couple closer views of some of his finds.


Photos by DJ



Can anyone identify the unidentified bone?

I went with a paid fossil hunting guide on my first trip to the Peace River too.  It does save time on the learning curve.  They put you on some good spots so you don't waste hours trying to figure out where to hunt.  If you go with a guide, you will definitely find some fossils.  In my opinion, it is definitely worth the money if you are interested in fossils.

You'll do some sifting.  That might be a good introduction to a technique that can be used for other things.

Guides for some other types of treasure hunting and other locations may not be such a good idea, but for Peace River fossil hunting, I think you'll find it worth the money.

It is a lot like metal detecting.  It helps to know where to look and how to identify the good spots.  Find identification adds to the fun.

Nice finds DJ.  Thanks for sharing about your trip.

You can sometimes find fossils on Treasure Coast beaches, but it depends upon beach conditions.  There was a time a few years ago when they were plentiful.  One area was very rich with fossils, but they can be found form time to time all along the coast.  I've seen them at Ambersands, Wabasso, Seagrape Trail, Turtle Trail and along South Hutchinson Island down as far as Jensen Beach, and probably farther.  I also have seen some found at Rio Mar.  Some of the Indian River spoil islands also have fossils on them.

After some very high rough seas there were some large fossil bones, from mammoths, whales, etc. on the beaches.  Fossils have been scarce on the beaches for the last few years.

Native American artifacts can also be found on the beaches at times too.  They are more common when the fossils can be found, and I've seen them at some of the same beaches.

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As part of RR Auction's The Fine Autographs and Artifacts Featuring JFK’ collection, the rosary beads used by Father James Thompson on the fateful day of President Kennedy's death were sold for $13,401.25...

https://spiritdaily.org/blog/news/rosary-beads-used-in-jfks-last-rites-auctioned-for-over-13k

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On the deepest dive ever executed into the Mariana Trench, an American investor-turned-explorer discovered what appeared to be plastic bag and other litter nearly seven miles below the surface of the Pacific Ocean.

Victor Vescovo, a retired naval officer from Texas, broke the record for the deepest dive into a part of the Mariana Trench known as Challenger Deep, the deepest known point in the Earth’s seabed. His dive went 52 feet lower than a 1960 dive to the bottom of the Mariana Trench completed by U.S. Navy lieutenant Don Walsh and Swiss engineer Jacques Piccard in a vessel called the bathyscaphe Trieste...


https://www.foxnews.com/science/plastic-litter-discovered-deepest-dive-pacifics-mariana-trench

We all know how much junk there is out there.  We can all remove a little of it.

Removing junk metal can help you find good targets, and removing old worthless bottles can help you find good bottles.

I remember way back to high school when one day our gym teacher sent us out to pick up the junk on the football field.  I found a dollar under the bleachers.  Guess I liked eye-balling way back then.

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The surf will be slowly increasing over the next few days.

Happy hunting,
TreasureGuide@comcast.net

Wednesday, February 13, 2019

2/13/19 Report - If You Want To Find More, Try Sifting. More on the Melborne Artifact.


Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of treasurebeachesreport.blogspot.com.

Finds Found by Sifting an Old Home Site
Finds and photo by Russ P. 
I received this photo of finds that were made by Russ P and his sons by sifting an old home site.  Here is what he said.



... I took my boys sifting this morning at a trashy old house site. The finds pictured are fairly typical, in variety and amount. One of my sons likes to collect the colorful ceramic shards.

The aspect of sifting I think I enjoy most is seeing everything.

There is a Buffalo nickel and a couple of wheats...

Thanks Russ.

Russ has conducted experiments in which he recorded finds from lots that were detected several times and the sifted.  His experiments show that metal detecting only results in a fraction of the coins that can be found at a site.

Take a look at the following link and some of my other posts on sifting as compared to metal detecting.


I highly recommend sifting if you want to get more of what a site holds.

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Here is more on the artifact that was originally erroneously referred to as an "Incan" funerary mask.  This article is by Rick Neale of Florida Today.

MELBOURNE BEACH — An undersea treasure hunter has discovered a possible ancient Peruvian artifact near Melbourne Beach that may have been transported by the doomed 1715 Spanish Plate Fleet.
"I thought it was scrap. I thought it was a NASA scrap, honestly. I thought it was a piece of an aircraft," said Mike Torres, chief technology officer of Seafarer Exploration. He found the item Jan. 14 in pre-dawn darkness.
Measuring about 10 inches across, bordered with intricate patterns, the circular copper relic features an image of a bird-like figure. John de Bry, director of the Center for Historical Archaeology in Melbourne Beach, said the object may have once been gold-plated...
Here is the link to read the entire article.

https://www.tcpalm.com/story/news/local/florida/2019/01/22/treasure-hunter-discovers-possible-ancient-artifact-near-melbourne-beach/2648527002/

It seems that some of the inaccuracies that were in earlier reporting have been cleaned up.

For one thing, the artifact is no longer referred to as "Incan" but rather a Peruvian artifact.  As I posted in this blog before, the determined age of the item did not match with the period of the Incan civilization.

You can find what I've previously posted concerning this artifact by going back a few days in this blog.  There were many questions about the find.




X-ray fluorescence reveals exact origin of porcelain recovered from the ocean floor. 
Here is the link for that article.


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Looks like we'll have a little increase in the surf later Wednesday and Thursday.  I don't think I'll get a chance to check it out.

Happy hunting,
Treasureguide@comcast.net





Saturday, January 12, 2019

1/12/19 Report - Penny Not Worth Million Dollars. Ages and Stages of Detecting. Worked-Out Sites May Not Be So Worked Out.


Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of treasurebeachesreport.blogspot.com.

Rare 1943 Copper Penny.

I posted an article about this penny a couple days ago.  The article claimed that it would be worth over a million dollars.  Well, it sold for $204,000.   I started to say for "only $204,000," but it is hard to say "only" when referring to a dollar amount having six figures.  That is still a very nice amount for a coin find.

Here is the link.

I received the following email from Joe D. in response to yesterday's post about profitable metal detecting.

Hello,

I was out for the first hunt of the new year this morning! I found a few decent items and some coins! A homemade copper wire and stone necklace,  and a St. Christopher's necklace! Neither of much value, but gave me some more info on this particular beach!  Because the medal looked new, i did a brief search online and found a line of "retro" medals that matched! Like anyone that's detected for awhile, I've run across religious medals before, but found it interesting that they are still popular with the youth of today! Albeit more colorful versions and inexpensive, which kids can afford!
     
I just wanted to comment on todays  [ 1/11/19 ] post! 

As you said, everyone has different motivations for why they detect! I started the hobby at a relatively young age of 15!( late 70's) I did it for a few years, and did ok with my search locations within biking distance for the most part! I did better with silver coins back then, than i do now!! ...

A Bounty Hunter 880 and old school yards and houses! More to find back than i guess! After that i guess a car, and girls took over my free time!!
    
I still have the silver! I've never sold anything I've found then, and now! Only given away the good jewelry to family members!

The most important reason to me for detecting, i think, is the "thrill of the chase"! And while that is still there to a large extent!  Since i started detecting again, my interest in history and things that are old, are a close second! And third would be the hunt on the internet to identify items and learn!
      
I have also enjoyed hunting for arrowheads out of state for years, (have a few places to hunt on family property) and even keep the chips because they show signs of being worked by ancient hands, which helps me connect, if that makes sense! ( now i look for bottles too).
     
Thanks for all you contribute!

Joe D.


Colorful St. Christopher Medallion
Find and photo by Joe D.

People do go through different stages in life and there are different priorities at different times.  I looked at metal detecting very differently at different times in my life.  There was the beginning, when I was just trying it out and learning.  There was different stages to that too.  Then there was a time when I was trying to see if I could make a living by metal detecting.  I wasn't so interested in actually making my living that way, but I wanted to see if I could.  Then after I answered that question for myself, I started looking at it as more of a side interest - although one that I was still very passionate about and spent a lot of time on.  That wasn't the end of it either.  I'm still learning, but look at things differently again now.

I once did a poll to determine why people metal detect.  There were  a lot of different answers.  Many people were like Joe.  They like the thrill of the hunt.  I think that is a big part of it for most detectorists.  You never know what you are going to find.

I looked for that old post in my blog but didn't find it yet.  If anyone knows where it is, let me know.  Maybe I'll find it later.

Many detectorists like to find old things and like the feeling of touching the past that they get when they find something old.

The internet has really changed things.  Back in several decades ago, metal detecting was a much more secretive activity for a lot of the hard core detectorists. Some would only detect when they would not be observed.  Some would only detect at night.  There were a few metal detecting clubs, but they were attended more by the casual detectorists who wasn't really finding a lot, and a very few of the hard core guys, who were mostly very secretive about their locations and techniques.  There were a few magazines and books, but they didn't have near the impact of all the internet resources.  And reading is a pretty solitary activity too.

Now you can find huge amounts of information on the internet - not only about metal detecting, but also about archaeology, history, artifact conservation, etc. etc.  It is a totally different world that way.  It is so much easier to find information, and that, as Joe mentions, is enjoyable too.  There is what I've called the "hunt after the hunt" when you research your finds to learn what they are and where they came from and determine their value.  I guess one of the best things about metal detecting is that there is so much to learn and you can never master it all.  There are always surprises and new challenges to keep you going.

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If you ever start thinking that all the good sites have been cleaned out, go back and read my 3/26/18 post.  Russ P. detected a home site several times and then sifted the lot.  Here is my summary of what he found. study found.

The study was conducted on a small residential lot in a working class 20th century Florida neighborhood.  The lot size was approximately 4500 square feet and the lot was occupied for nearly one hundred years.

About 500 coins total (detecting and sifting) was found by the reader.  That would be about one for every nine square feet or one square yard.

43 silver coins were found by the same reader.  That would be one for little more than every 100 square feet.  Counting known silver coin finds by one other detectorist, it would be more like one for every 90 square feet.

About one in ten coins found on this lot inhabited during most of the 20th century were silver.

Despite detecting the lot at least 12 times, only about 20 percent of the coins found on the lot were found by detecting.  The remainder were found by sifting.  Just over 30% of the silver coins found, were found by detecting.


That means there was a lot left after detecting the same lot several times.  Russ used another technique (sifting) to get the remaining coins.

Here is that link.

https://treasurebeachesreport.blogspot.com/2018/03/82618-report-first-investigation-ever.html

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There isn't much surf.   I'm still hoping for a good winter storm.  None expected real soon.

Google removed the poll app from blogger.  If anyone has any recommendations on some good poll apps that I can use in this blog, let me know.  I'd like to get back to doing polls occasionally.

Happy hunting,
TreasureGuide@comast.net

Friday, March 30, 2018

3/30/18 Report - More On The Sifting Compared To Detecting Experiment. Intact Section of 18th Century Wreck Washes Up On Beach. Good Friday!


Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of treasurebeachesreport.blogspot.com.

Section of Old Wreck Appears on Beach.
Source: See msn.com link below.

48-foot hull of a well-preserved 18th century vessel dubbed the 'Holy Grail of shipwrecks' washes ashore on Florida beach with copper tacks and roman numeral etchings still intact...

Experts speculate that the wreck may have laid under sand offshore for years, then washed onto the beach due to storm activity, explaining how the ship remained so well preserved...

Here is the link for more about that.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/48-foot-hull-of-a-well-preserved-18th-century-vessel-dubbed-the-holy-grail-of-shipwrecks-washes-ashore-on-florida-beach-with-copper-tacks-and-roman-numeral-etchings-still-intact/ar-AAvhmGj

If you have the chance to get up there and view this before it is removed or something should definitely do it.  I don't know if it is still there.  But if you do get a chance to look at it, take a close look at all the metallic parts.  It is a good chance to learn something.

Thanks to Dean R. and Bruce B. for alerting me to this story.

When I saw that peat washed up Tuesday, I thought there was also a chance for some old wood to wash up as well.  I was in an area where wood planks have washed up in the past.

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On 3/26 I posted a report by someone who detected a lot several times, recorded all finds, and then sifted the entire lot to find out what if anything he had missed.  The results were amazing, both in the total number of coins found on that small lot, but also the number of old coins found, and what everybody should take notice of is the low number of old coins found as the result of multiple thorough metal detecting sessions despite the large number that was in that ground.  Most people would have detected the site a few times and maybe thought they had found most of the good coins that were there and thought it was time to give up and move on not realizing how many more old coins were waiting for them there.

If you have not read the 3/26 post and the total report of that experiment, I highly recommend that you do that.  If you don't you'll be missing out on proof of what is often said and speculated about in the metal detecting community.

The person who sifted that entire lot offered the following important comments and observations concerning that experiment.


No one was more shocked by the results than me.  I suspected there was more in the ground, but had no idea of the actual amount.  When I started, I did not intend to do [sift] the entire lot, just the areas I thought would be most productive.   However,  I just kept finding more, then decided to finish the job.  

I have a few other comments.  I can't be sure, of course, but I strongly suspect that this lot was never hunted prior to the houses being demolished.  It has nothing to do with the number of finds, but much of the lot was covered in a concrete pad and for many years during the detecting era it was a dangerous area.  This would make the conclusions more valid.

A point I don't think I emphasized enough is the difficulty detecting from the surface.  The first detectorist found 8 silver coins over 2-3 hunts.  I knew there were likely some more silver dimes because he found 3 silver quarters, a silver dollar, and only four dimes.  That is a strange distribution.  I actually briefly hunted the lot before they cleared the house piles and found a couple of clad coins only.  It is just mind-boggling to me, in hindsight, that I found no old coins on my first hunt on a lot with more than 225 in the ground!  When I went back, I found a silver half and silver dime and some wheats, some of which were on the surface.  The second time I found two silver dimes.  Over many hunts before I tried sifting I never found more than 2 silver coins with the detector.  I worked that lot thoroughly and repeatedly with multiple detectors because I strongly suspected there was more there.  I remember being frustrated about it.  So even though 30% of the silver coins were found using a detector, that was after an unusual amount of detecting, including moving at a snail's pace with a small coil and my Safari from different directions.   I feel confident saying that a more common scenario would be for the lot to be detected significantly less before being abandoned in search of greener pastures.  My point is that my detected finds likely overrepresent the percentage of finds that will be found using a detector on a site with heavy trash.

Overall, it was eye-opening for me.  The results were exciting...and daunting.  I now know there are a lot of great finds still to be made, even in well hunted areas, but it might not be easy.


I added the parenthesis and bolding for clarity and emphasis.

Thanks once again to the author of this report.

People are always looking for new unhunted sites.  Many of the old sites still hold more good finds, perhaps more than you would ever imagine.  Realizing how much more might be there is the first step to getting the finds you've been missing.

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As you probably know, Easter is on the first Sunday after the first full moon after the Spring equinox.  Yesterday - Thursday - was a full moon, and today is Good Friday, which is the perfect time to talk about crosses.

A couple days ago I showed a silver ring with a cross on it.  Alberto S. found the same ring offered by WalMart.   So it is no Tiffany or anything really old.  I had no idea that it was anything but common modern despite my joking around.

Isn't it remarkable how prevalent the cross is whenever you talk about treasure hunting.  You'll find a cross on most cobs in one form or another, as well as on rings, pendants, and other things.  You can't escape that.  And there is a reason.

Something happened that changed the world, and 2000 years later people still wear and display the sign of the cross.  That in itself is remarkable.  But what people wear is not as important as what is on the inside.

You meet all kinds of people.  There are kind generous people, and then there are grumpy demanding people.  It is the same in metal detecting as it is in the world in general.  I'm glad to say that the readers of this blog, judging from the emails I receive, are almost exclusively of the kind generous type.

Some people can't get along with anybody and they think it is the fault of everybody else.  Some are always seeking and never finding.  They are looking in the wrong place.  Others have found the secret and carry their joy with them no matter what is going on in the world around them.  They are the ones that fill the Easter baskets and scatter the eggs and rejoice everytime one is found.

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The surf will be 3 - 5 feet today and less tomorrow and Sunday.

Happy hunting,
TreasureGuide@comcas.net

Monday, March 26, 2018

3/26/18 Report - First Investigation Ever To Really Answer Two Big Questions: How Much Is Actually In The Ground As Compared To How Much Will Be Found Using A Metal Detector.


Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of treasurebeachesreport.blogspot.com.


Before I get started today, I have to bring attention to the fact that yesterday's Nazi sub story was fake news.  It is a hoax.  Thaanks to those readers who brought that to my attention.


I'm very happy to be able to present an exceptional study today.  You just don't get this kind of information.  It doesn't come easily.  One of the readers of this blog put in a LOT of work and really uncovered some good information - not to mention finds.  Not only was the site thoroughly covered with a metal detector multiple times, but then the entire lot was sifted to locate and record all of the finds that were still in the ground.  Below is what that reader, who chooses to remain anonymous, reported.

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As long-promised, here is my full accounting of using a sifter to search an entire lot.

First, I should give a little background about why I embarked on this project.  I had been using a detector for about three years.   As my skill improved, I had success with repeatedly hunting the same ground, using many of the techniques mentioned previously in this blog.  However, two questions began to gnaw at me:  how many finds remained in the ground despite using all the tricks?  As many have said, no area is truly "hunted out".   Plus, old coins are my priority finds and I just wasn't finding very many.  I questioned whether they simply weren't there or whether they were there, but I couldn't find them with a detector.

I had been searching a small (60ft x 75ft) vacant lot over several weeks where two small houses had been recently demolished.  There had been homes on this lot since about 1910 in a town settled around 1880.  I would expect very little activity at this lot location prior to the first house being built.  I was the second detectorist to hunt this lot.  My fellow detectorist found four silver quarters, including an 1894 Barber, three silver dimes, and a Morgan dollar!  My first attempt with a detector was very brief and I only found a clad quarter and two memorial pennies, which was a very deceptive for actual finds on this lot.  After using the detector extensively, I found the following:   12 silver coins (no Barbers), a couple of Buffalo nickels, 52 wheats and 50 modern coins.   I used every detecting technique and trick I knew and it continued to produce intermittently due to the sheer amount of metal trash.  In fact, five of those silver finds came well into my sifting project as I would occasionally hunt unsifted, but repeatedly detected, territory to break up the monotony.  Most of the lot had a coil over it at least twelve times (just from me), gridding from different directions, using two different detectors (Minelab Safari and Deus) under various detecting conditions.   I would consider myself to be above-average with a detector, but by no means superb.

I decided to use a sifter to find out what I was missing and to pick up additional nonmetallic items like bottles and marbles.  This is my sifter, version 2.0.





​It was built to be sturdy.  The legs fold up and the top sifting screen can be flipped to dump materials that are too big to pass through the screen.

As a test, I initially picked what I thought would be the best spot for coin finds, based on concentration of previous finds.  I began making interesting finds almost immediately, especially marbles and some coins.  The sifting was very slow at first as my initial sifter could not handle much volume.  I was surprised to find that almost all manmade objects resided in the top 12 inches of soil, usually in the top eight inches.  There typically is a change in color of the soil at the undisturbed level that has not been impacted by human activity.  This level is usually just below a layer of nails and other pieces of iron that I suspect is from the first construction at the site.   If I sifted all the dirt to that layer, I would then use a detector in the hole (don't want to miss a cache), then flip the soil with a shovel for another 8-12 inches and detect again.  Occasionally I found a buried bottle and a few times deeper coins upon turning up the soil.

I worked the site over two years, usually when no other promising detecting sites were available.  I would estimate I spent 60-80 hours, but it might have been more.  I tried various techniques.  I would estimate about half of the lot was sifted and the other half was dug a few inches at a time, detecting both the dug dirt and the newly exposed layer.   I was mainly focused on improved speed (while maintaining confidence that I was missing very few finds) as I tried different techniques of digging, detecting and sifting combinations, but eventually was able to use the sifter as quickly as any other technique or combination.  Pure sifting catches 98% of good finds, in my opinion, although it is still possible to miss some things.

Now for my finds.  As I was gathering the finds for the pictures, I was stunned by the volume of finds when collected together.  I recall there being a lot, but I was surprised by the final totals.  Almost 500 coins were found on this lot by me.  This is a picture of the copper memorial pennies and clad.





​There was a total of 177 pennies, 20 quarters, 40 nickels and 46 dimes.  This pile includes the coins found from surface with the detector.   There were 173 wheats.



​This next picture is of the older copper and nickel finds.




​ I found three Indian head pennies, including my oldest 1880, one Shield nickel, three V-nickels, and 11 Buffalo.

Next is the picture of the silver coins.





​There were a total of 43 silver coins found.  This picture includes the twelve silver coins found from the surface with the detector.  Highlights include the Walking Liberty half, three Barber quarters and three Barber dimes.  If you count the eight silver coins found by the detectorist prior to me hunting, there were 51 silver coins on this small lot!

I've included a picture of other interesting metallic finds.



​ I found quite a few cufflinks and three silver rings.  No gold.  This picture does not represent, by any means, all the interesting metallic finds made.  I didn't keep the finds separate until I was two thirds through the lot, so they are now mixed in with all my finds.




I thought folks might like to see my nonmetallic finds.  I found 103 marbles, many of which are clay.


​ The majority of the marbles in this picture were found on this lot, but as I mentioned, I wasn't keeping finds separate initially, so I had to add some to give the correct total.  I did keep very detailed records of the number of finds from the site, so the number is accurate.  Also, you can see in this picture some other game piece finds, including lucky number seven billiard ball.  That was a good omen!





Some of my favorite finds are old bottles and I found a bunch.

​This picture probably represents only a third of the bottles found that I kept, but does include my three favorite, which are the old soda drink bottles.

I did not take a picture of the trash, but probably should have.  Imagine a heaped pickup truck bed full and that is likely an underestimate.  There was probably enough to cover the entire lot with a layer, leaving no exposed dirt.  

You might have noticed that my finds with the detector are the more recently lost coins, speaking generally.  This has held true at other sites.  My focus is finding old coins.  Old coins are deeper (no surprise).  Once you start sifting, you can reach those older coins that were masked by trash or out-of-range of the detector.  Sifting finds are definitely skewed older.

I've concluded that sifting can be very productive when choosing the right site.  In my opinion, the best sites are newly scraped, tons of trash (old rusted bottle caps are best indicator of good kind of human activity), old bottles or glass, and marbles.  If I find a few old coins with the detector, I then know there is much, much more in the ground.

Some might ask if I was just fortunate on selecting my first sifting spot.  I wondered also if that may be the case.  However, it has proven not to be.  I've extensively used the sifter at three other sites with many other finds.  A different lot is approaching fifty silver coins in total, only ten found with my detector from the surface!  Sifting is definitely not for everyone, as it is undeniably hard work.  However, it brings out the archaeologist in me and I like seeing all that human activity has brought to the area.  

When I started this project, I sought to answer two main questions:  how much was I missing and are there old coins in the ground where I search?  The answers:  a lot and yes!

Hope this helps.  


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Thanks much!  That is a tremendous help.

There is so much information in that report, I'll take a few minutes and look at some of the numbers to help you sum things up.

The study was conducted on a small residential lot in a working class 20th century Florida neighborhood.  The lot size was approximately 4500 square feet and the lot was occupied for nearly one hundred years.

About 500 coins total (detecting and sifting) was found by the reader.  That would be about one for every nine square feet or one square yard.

43 silver coins were found by the same reader.  That would be one for little more than every 100 square feet.  Counting known silver coin finds by one other detectorist, it would be more like one for every 90 square feet.

About one in ten coins found on this lot inhabited during most of the 20th century were silver.

Despite detecting the lot at least 12 times, only about 20 percent of the coins found on the lot were found by detecting.  The remainder were found by sifting.  Just over 30% of the silver coins found, were found by detecting.

On a home site you have to take into account the massive amount of junk and masking that occurs on a homesite.

You can't do that kind of study on a beach because the beach will change daily.

As approximate as those numbers might be, they might also give you something to think about.

You might want to read the report over a few times, especially if you detect residential lots.

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The front is coming through and the wind has changed.  The surf will build to up around seven feet tomorrow.  There will be two or three hours of north wind in the early morning hours.

Happy hunting,
TreasureGuide@comcast.net

Thursday, January 11, 2018

1/11/18 Report - Finds: Sight and Otherwise. Dutch Warship Found. One Reader's Success Sifting For Silver.


Written by the TreasureGuide for the exclusive use of treasurebeachesreport.blogspot.com.

14 Inch Spike Found On Treasure Coast Yesterday
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Divers in the blue waters around the Yucatán Peninsula have discovered three historic treasures: a sunken lighthouse and the remains of an 18th-century Dutch warship and a 19th-century British steamer, according to Mexico's National Institute of Anthropology and History (INAH).

The battered wrecks were found near the coastal town of Sisal, Mexico, a modern beach destination that was once a bustling port in the 18th and 19th centuries...


Here is the link for the rest of the story.

https://www.livescience.com/61378-shipwrecks-yucatan.html

I've long suspected that old wrecks could be responsible for the shape of some of the Treasure Coast.  The wrecks were covered with coral and then in some cases, sand.

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A couple days ago I was talking about a couple kinds of sloth.  One reader responded to that post as follows.

After spending a few hours on the sifter today, your entry resonated today!

I am on a new site or at least a new site using the sifter.  It was a small lot with the house removed two years ago.  I hand dug, then detected, repeat, most of the lot as it was extremely trashy, with good success:  tons of marbles and at least 13 silvers, including some barber dimes.

There was a fifteen foot wide stretch at the front next to the sidewalk that had a very overgrown Camphor tree that I did not work.  Finds had diminished as I approached anyway so I wasn't too worried about it.  A week ago they cleaned all of it up and it has perfect sifting soil (mainly, no grass) so I decided to give a sample of it a shot with the sifter (after hitting with the detector and finding nada, I might add).  I might have sampled the best spot that first day with 19 marbles and a Merc and some wheats, but the finds have continued.  I've spent about ten hours and have two Indian head pennies, two V-nickels, 10 or so wheats, war nickel, two mercs and, the highlight, an 1892O Barber quarter.  I should also include the 40 marbles.  If you want to build a marble collection, sifting is the way!  I probably find 200 a year, including a bunch of clay, using the sifter.

Now I regret not sifting the entire lot, just digging.  I'm sure I missed some dimes, nickels and probably IHP's.

Anyway, not many want to hit sifting hard.  It is a lot of work.  But if you want to find the older coins, do it!

Thanks for all your blogging efforts.

Russ

Sifting isn't easy.  Most people won't put in that kind of work, but if you do, you will definitely find things that you would miss with a detector - including coins.  Did you catch how much he found with the sifter after having used his detector first?

Thanks for sharing Russ!

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I often visually scout areas before deciding to detect.  Good sites will often show evidence that something might be there and maybe even give you a good idea of the kind of things that might be there.

I decided to check out at a spot along the Indian River Lagoon, and found the two following items.  They were both sight finds.  I consider eye-balling to be a speciality of mine and enjoy finding things that way.  These two items aren't worth much but they do tell me that the area is probably worth checking out with a detector.

Cork Top McCormack's Bottle.
Even if this bottle was in great shape, and it isn't, it wouldn't be worth much, but it does tell me that some older things might be found in the area.

Vintage Earring.
This earring, like the bottle above, was a sight find.  Both were found in an eroded area.  The area was eroded much like the near ideal cut that I talked about a couple days ago.

The earring tells me that there might be some more jewelry in the area,

Such sight finds are common if you know how to read sites.

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We're supposed to have a 4 - foot surf and a south wind today.

Happy hunting,
TreasureGuide@comcast.net