Thursday, July 2, 2015

7/2/15 Report - Flipped Coins. British Coldstream Guards. 1860 Census Data. Four Feet To Bedrock.

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Yesterday I listed how coins move on a beach.  One of the ways I mentioned as one of the most interesting is flipping up, which can be up and over a cut and onto the surface just behind the cut.  Regarding that Bill P., had the following to say.

Just a quick note. I found my first cob on top of a 2' cut. It laying flat and totally uncovered. I am convinced it flipped up and back onto the top. I saw it before running my coil over it. It was a 1/2 reale. -Bill P.

Thanks Bill.  I'll add an observation too.  It seems to me when that is happening, you will often also see shells similar in size to the coins, in this case a half reales, on top of the flat sand just behind the cut.

The first time I saw a coin lip up and onto the flat behind a cut, it was a V nickel, if I correctly recall.


I was about to leave off on GoldNugget's round mystery item, but William M. pointed out something that might be very relevant.  William suggested considering the British Coldstream Guards. Here is why.

GoldNugget's Mystery Item.

Striking similarity, to say the very least.

You can learn about the Coldstream Guards on Wikipedia.

They did fight in the revolutionary war in the Southern States.

Thanks much William.


You've probably read about confederate flags and monuments being defaced lately.  I wonder if this new negative focus on reminders of the Confederacy will cause prices of Confederate artifacts to decrease or increase?

Here is one article about Confederate monuments being defaced.


I came across the 1860 U. S. census the other day.  There is a lot of interesting data in it.  Some of the commentary does not agree well with today's mode of thinking.  In fact some of it might be considered downright offensive.  Nonetheless, the data is interesting and enlightening.

Not long ago I showed some artifacts from the Seminole Wars and the issue of slavery was mentioned as the cause of the Seminole Wars.

Here is a couple paragraphs from the 1860 census that I found that were somewhat relevant to that.

With all the computing power we have today, analyzing tons of data seems like a small task, but think about how big a job it was to collect and tabulate the census data back in 1860 and earlier.

Here is an interesting clip from the same census report reminding us that some parts of the United States did away with slavery much earlier than the Emancipation Proclamation.

Nothing shatters broad sweeping generalizations like information.  If you like history, you'll want to read this and earlier census reports.  Here is the link to the 1860 census report.

I'm sure you will find some interesting surprises and learn a few things.

We talked about the Seminole Wars being about slavery and returning escaped slaves.  Here is something from the census relevant to that.

If you read the report, you'll learn much more.  You'll find out where most of the immigrants were coming from, going to, and many more details about that.

The story is never as simple as it seems.

From Wikipedia, About half of the white immigrants to the American colonies in the 17th and 18th centuries were indentured. During the late 17th and early 18th centuries poor children from England and France were kidnapped and sold into indentured labor in the Caribbean for a minimum of five years, but most times their contracts were bought and sold repeatedly and some laborers never attained their freedom.

I saw the number of black slave owners somewhere too.  Considerable number.

If you do a little research, there are even sites where you can find your own ancestors.  You can search the census records by name.  If you haven't done much genealogical research and want to get started, you might start with one of the searchable census data sites.

If you like history, I think you'll find the census reports worth reading.


I asked Captain Jonah how deep the sand was where they were blowing holes next to shore.  He said it varies but average was about 4 feet to bedrock.  He also mentioned that a lot of times they find older material in holes and cracks under ledges.

We also previously discussed some large deep targets that have been on the beach for a long time and that nobody has managed to recover due to the depth of sand.  One is said to be a cannon. 

There have been a few times in my detecting when the sand close to shore was down to near bedrock,  One of those times was next to a popular swimming beach and produced a carpet of coins interspersed with jewelry.  There was a steep cliff in the dry sand and then another steep drop off  into the water.  The beach was also back farther than usual.  Those were excellent hunting conditions.


Expect even more days of one foot surf along the Treasure Coast.

Happy hunting,