Tuesday, March 13, 2012

3/13/12 Report - Whatzits, Bale Seals and Beach Conditions

Written by the Treasureguide for the exclusive use of treasurebeachesreport.blogspot.com.

Treasure Coast Beach As Seen Monday.

You can see the seaweed. A couple days earlier there was a cut here.

At low tide you could see a low wide front beach. That is one reason there wasn't more erosion here. There is a lot of sand in front of the beach.

The seas will be decreasing a little every day this week until they are down around three feet by the weekend.

No improvement in beach conditions seems likely.

Ron K. sent in the following regarding the button that I posted yesterday for ID.

There are several possibilities relative to the origin of this button, but all I found evolve around King George IIII (IV):

"This I'll defend" was the motto of the clans Kincaid and Macfarlane.

Plus apparently the visit of King George IV to Scotland in 1822 spurred 19th century interest in the clans and a reawakening of Scottish culture and pride.


King George IV made a royal visit to Edinburgh in 1822. It was the first time a monarch had come to Scotland since 1641 and his tour was stage-managed by Sir Walter Scott. Scott engineered an image of Scotland similar to the country in his romantic novels for the visit.

This may be a button from The Royal Company of Archers. It's a ceremonial unit that serves as the Sovereign's Bodyguard in Scotland, a role it has performed since 1822 and the reign of King George IV, when the company provided a personal bodyguard to the King on his visit to Scotland. It is currently known as the Queen's Bodyguard For Scotland, and is located at Edinburgh. The Royal Company of Archers has a long history in Scotland as a body that celebrated both the recreation and talent of local archers.

A couple of those alternatives leave the distinct possibility that the button may have shown the date 1822 to commemorate an event such as the King George's visit rather than being the current date. Or it could have been made for the event.

On the other item I posted yesterday (showing OMD) we've made less progress at this point, as I expected would be the case.

One possibility is that it is a bale seal.

For examples of metal detected bale seals, take a look at this web site.


OMD is a common combination found on Mexican minted cobs, indicating the Mexican mint and assayer "D."

According to Sewall Menzel, the D assayer initial was used for Mexican minted cobs 1598-1599 (Francisco de Quintana Duenas), 1618-1634 (Diego de Godoy) and 1724-1729 (Domingo Garcia de Mendiola).

I don't see any evidence of this object being a coin. I don't see any shield, cross, or monogram.

Could it be that a die was being tested? Or perhaps the mint and assayer mark used to certify something other than a coin as being official?

While I'm far from reaching a conclusion, right now to me the most likely of the alternatives that I've considered, is that it is a broken bale seal.

The OMD on the object really looks a lot like a maker's mark though, like you might find on silver jewelry.

Sometimes research like this only yields results over a period of months or years.

Yesterday I had the privilege of reading a new chapter for a book that hasn't yet been published. It was about a very interesting relic from the 1715 Fleet.

Happy hunting,