Sunday, March 24, 2013

3/24/13 Report - Pre Columbian Items Sold & Rocket Engines Salvaged

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Rocket Engine Salvaged From Atlantic
Photo by Bezos Expeditions (Link below).
The gold 5.5 inch pectoral that I showed in yesterday's post  sold for $17,865 in the Sotheby's auction.  The realized prices for that auction are now available through the link that I gave in my previous post.

The Florida Indian Hobbyists are at the Savannahs Recreation Area on Midway Road today.  You can see the tepees.  Yesterday afternoon there were events including drums and chanting.  I don't know what is on the schedule for today, but you might want to take a look.

Numismatic News asked their readers if they would purchase a coin from a famous hoard.  The answers were split with a majority saying no. Many who would not purchase coins  coming from famous hoards primarily because they thought such coins would likely be over-priced.  However, many readers did say they would buy hoard coins. 

I selected one answer that I felt typified the thinking of those who would purchase coins coming from famous hoards.  Here it is.

Yes.I would buy a coin all the more if it was authenticated as coming from a specific hoard.  I love looking at an old coin and wondering where it’s been or who’s collection has it been in over all the years.  Who would’nt want a coin where the history could be traced back to say the New York City subway hoard or an early half dollar from the Harmony Society hoard. Coin collecting and history go hand in hand and what could be better than having a documented history of where a certain coin has been.

David Tortorice

Here is the link to that piece

It is not unusual to find melted pieces of titanium on the Treasure Coast beaches.  I've commented on that several times before. 

You can find a few pictures of pieces of titanium pieces found on Treasure Coast beaches if you look back through older posts in this blog.  New detectorists wonder what they are, but if you've been reading this blog very long you know that they've been attributed to the explosion of the space shuttle Challenger.

One post discussing titanium pieces found on the beaches is my 2/10/11 post, which includes the following link to a site telling how to test titanium.

As always, if you are interested in this topic, you can search old posts by using the search box on the blog.

I've speculated in the past that obsolete space vehicles carrying valuable materials and parts might be salvaged in space someday very much like old shipwrecks are salvaged today. 

On March 20th, the founder of Amazon, Jeff Bezos, successfully salvaged F1 Saturn engines from the Atlantic.

Here is the link to an article about the recovery of the rockets.

I wonder if there will be some type of ownership battle that pops up on this one.   Off hand, I suspect that the US government has clear ownership in this case.

Saturn V moon rockets launched from Cape Canaveral dropped into the Atlantic after the fuel was used.  The salvage project led by Bezos, used flight information and deep sea technology to find and retrieve the engines that remained in the ocean for nearly fifty years.  Some have said this marks the beginning of space archaeology.

I always thought that archaeology dealt with "old" stuff, so I looked up some definitions. gives the following definition.  Archaeology is the study of ancient cultures through remains: the scientific study of ancient cultures through the examination of their material remains such as buildings, graves, tools, and other artifacts usually dug up from the ground.

That is what I thought.  Archaeology studies "ancient cultures."   That is what the definition says, and that is undoubtedly what archaeology text books say, or said up until perhaps recent years.

A Merriam Webster online definition, however, defines archaeology as  the scientific study of material remains (as fossil relics, artifacts, and monuments) opast human life and activities.

Definitions do change.  Often intentionally, and for a reason.

You might remember that I posted a request for help in locating a buried aluminum canoe.  One of this blog's readers, Ed B., went out to help find the canoe.  Unfortunately it was no longer there.  Nonetheless, Ed enjoyed the experience and was able to some one.   Thanks Ed!

On the Treasure Coast today the surf is predicted to be 2 - 3 feet.  The wind is from the South.   Beach detecting conditions remain poor.

The low tide will be just before 1 PM.

Happy hunting,