Monday, October 29, 2012

10/29/12 Report - A Couple Finds From Sandy and Beach Developments

2-real Found Friday

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This appears to be a Mexican 2 real assayed by Francisco de Morales. Francisco was the assayer at the Mexico mint 1589 - 1608 and 1610 -1618.

The cob is not dated. The assayer mark appears to be an F. And a “2” indicating the denomination appears at the right of the shield.

Sorry about the photo.  I got too close for good focus, and also it needs cleaned.

The style of shield matches those dates. And the dates fit with the wreck at the location of the find.

I need to do a little more research to confirm the details.

The coin is very worn and underweight. It has obviously been tumble in the sand for quite a while, and especially very recently. The edges are silvery instead of black where the black patina has been worn off.

The other side shows a clear Florenza cross, as is seen on cobs minted in Mexico.

This cob was dug before noon Friday

Remnant of Silver Coin
Found Saturday

In a few days I’ll do a poll to figure out how many coins were produced by this storm.

And here is another silver find. It is so worn that it is impossible to tell what type of coin it is or how old it might be. It was found Sunday.


The water is still very high. There was a full moon this morning. At high tide the water was still coming up over the dunes and in some places down into the parking lots.

Joan T. said that Walton Rocks and Normandy Beach were closed yesterday and today. 

Here is a photo of Normandy Beach.  Notice the sand and water in the parking lot.

Normandy Beach This Morning
Photo by Joan T.

The water came up over the dunes by the House of Refuge and washed out the road. I think they are keeping the road open though.

I also heard that one of the basements of a house near there washed out, and two cars ended up in the ocean.

Despite the high water, there are still virtually no cuts on the Treasure Coast beaches other than whatever erosion occurred to the face of any back dunes where there was a cliff.

Some beaches seem to be building already.  One spot that was producing a lot of clad Saturday produced virtually nothing today.  (I talk more about that coin hole some other day.)  It appeared to be one of those beaches that was building.

I'm changing my Treasure Coast Treasure Beach Detecting Conditions Rating to a 2.


I was looking at the Sedwick auction results for silver reals. There were a lot of very nice dated eight reals that brought in the area of $250 - $300, such as those from the 1715 Fleet. The reals that were bringing much higher prices were from wrecks that produced fewer cobs.    Some reals with a rarer provenance were bring up around $1000 or more. One example is an eight-real from the Whydah - one of few pirate ship wrecks that have produced a number of treasure coins.

I would have covered the auction more thoroughly if it wasn’t for Sandy getting all of the attention. It is always interesting to see what prices things are bringing and what objects came from where.

I still have some important things to post, including Laura Strolia's update on the Pelican of Piety and some explanations and illustrations of beach dynamics that I've put together, but Sandy has been keeping me busy.  I will get to the other topics before long.

Happy hunting,