Sunday, July 21, 2013

7/21/13 Report - Mystery Object, Gold Madonna Sought Near Palm Beach & John Barry

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Very Small Rectangular Heavy Detector Find
I often tell people to not throw a find away until they positively identify it or are sure that it isn't any good.  You'll sometimes miss things at first but then notice something much later - sometimes years later.   That happened to me with the above object.  It wasn't years later, but it was weeks later.

This little rectangle (sitting on my finger tip) was sitting around for a while.  It is unusually heavy but I hadn't paid any particular attention to it.  It has a green crust on top.  Then one day recently it was under a light, and all of a sudden I notice the cut stones sticking out of the crust.  I have arrows pointing to those stones in the photo above.  I hadn't noticed those before.

I suspect the item probably isn't anything significant, but it now has my interest.  I need to clean it and test it and see if I can determine what it is.

The back doesn't show anything of interest or significance.

Here an older example of the same thing.  It is a 18th Century shipwreck medallion that I've shown before.  It is a good example of what I am talking about.  It was in a jar with a bunch of encrusted coins for a long time (months at least) before it was discovered to be a medallion. That was discovered when the coins (and it) was being cleaned.  Then the shape emerged, and eventually after more cleaning the design and words became visible.

Notice the two indentations, one at the two o'clock position and one at the 10 o'clock position.  It might have had stones at one time too.  It has little bit of gold gilding remaining.

Spanish Shipwreck Medallion Found on Treasure Coast

A fabled gold Madonna statue is being sought near a 1659 Spanish wreck off the coast of West Palm by a local treasure hunter.,0,2469769.story

Thanks to Marsha R. for submitting the link.

Reviewing some of my old metal detecting records from when I was concentrating on gold at high-end resort areas, a few things jumped out at me.

1.  How many quality gold finds came from volleyball courts.

2.  How many good gold finds came from what I called "quarter holes," which are simply concentrations of quarters.

3.  How many times multiple gold items were found very close together.

4. How many times gold items were found in concentrations of rocks and stones in dips.

5.  How many times gold items were found in holes with several lead sinkers.

6.  How few times no gold was found.

I just looked at the most recent issue of The Whig, the newsletter of the Florida Chapter of the SAR,

Do you know where the last naval engagement of the Revolutionary war was fought?   Hint: it wasn't too far away from here.

Here are a couple of paragraphs from an article about John Barry, first flag officer of the US Navy, found in the most recent issue of The Whig.

While Barry recuperated, repairs to Alliance were undertaken, hastened by the decision to use the frigate to return the Marquis de Lafayette to France.  Alliance arrived off L’Orient on the northwest coast of France on January 17, 1782.

On March 10, 1783, the last Naval engagement of the Revolutionary War was fought off the coast of Cape Canaveral. 

Alliance defeated the 28 gun frigate Sybil.  At the time of the battle, Alliance, was convoying the Duc de Lauzun, carrying money and supplies from Havana, Cuba destined for the United States.  The action enabled the Duc de Lauzun to escape and complete its mission.

On the Treasure Coast today the sky looks like it might rain again.  The wind is from the southwest.  The surf is still down around 1 - 2 feet.

It looks like the low tide will be lower than normal today.  We'll see about that.

Beach detecting conditions have been poor for finding cobs on the beach but there are still a good number of encrusted objects and miscellaneous other old finds popping up.

Here is an interesting and controversial article that you might not want to read if you are easily offended by off-topic subjects.  Fair warning.

Happy hunting,